ge5422@charm.UUCP (ge5422) (07/10/84)
####### I got a phone call a couple of weeks ago from somebody taking a survey for some organization called "CARP" (I don't remember what it stands for.) My office mate tells me that this is a Moonie organization, and from the sound of the questions they asked, I don't know what to think. They started off fairly normal (politics, religion, etc.) but then they got weird (personal questions about sex!). I didn't think much about it afterward (I finally hung up on them) but that wasn't the end of it. The next Saturday, this guy showed up at my doorstep who started talking about communism and the "sexual revolution" who I'm sure was from the same group. Then, on Monday, I got a phone call AT HOME. This time I made sure to get the woman's name (Betty Wiggin from Fremont, NH). I hung up on her, but I have no idea how they got my phone number or my address. (*I* certainly didn't tell them!) But that's not all! Next my *parents* in Wyoming got a call from the same outfit, asking VERY personal questions about ME and asking for the names of my friends! Have any of you fellow-netters out there come across this group? Where did they get my name? How did they find out all this information about me? I guess my answers to the original survey reflected my rather distinctive brand of conservative, Christian thought. Is this what made them start hounding me? What should I do about it?
ark@rabbit.UUCP (Andrew Koenig) (07/11/84)
When I was at Columbia University, the administration decided to throw Moon's New Unification Church off campus, because they were generally bothering the students. Shortly thereafter, there appeared an entity called CARP (standing for "Campus Association for Research on Principles) that consisted of the same people saying the same things under a different name. The administration tried to get rid of them too, and I think they eventually succeeded, but not before having to cope with arguments like: "Even though you have thrown the New Unification Church out, that doesn't apply to us because we have a different name." I wonder if this is the same CARP that ge4522 mentioned?
steiny@scc.UUCP (07/13/84)
References: <401@charm.UUCP>, <2959@rabbit.UUCP> *** CARP is definately the Moonies. They were here in Santa Cruz for several years. They are one of many Moon organization that does not tell you what they are. The said they were students that were interested in World problems. Here in Santa Cruz they would invite people to dinner to "rap about world problems." At dinner they would focus on the perceived ills of the world. Since Santa Cruz has a high preportion of students because of a university and a large JC the organization was aimed at students. At dinner they would try and persuade people to go to a camp in Northern California. At the camp there was no privacy, short sleep schedule, too small portions of food, and constant encounter groups, lectures, songs, and various other sensory input. Many of the people that went to the camp choose to dedicate their lives to Moon. I heard the story of one one Santa Cruz resident that has been selling flowers in airports ever since. Once every local newspaper, main-stream or counter-culture started featuring articles with reporters going to the dinners and that traced CARP to the Moon orginazation no on would go near them and they left. Don Steiny Personetics 109 Torrey Pine Terr. Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 (408) 425-0382 ucbvax!hplabs!pesnta!scc!steiny harpo!fortune!idsvax!scc!steiny
chavez@harvard.ARPA (R. Martin Chavez) (07/14/84)
CARP, the Collegiate Association for the Research of Principles, was (is?) indeed a cover for the Unification Church. The trustworthy Dean of Students at Harvard quite effectively removed them from the campus last year. Some jokesters wrote a letter to the editor of the Harvard Crimson in which they deplored CARP's activities and advocated SCROD, the Society for the Collegiate Research of Omnicosmic Dimensionality. R. Martin Chavez UUCP: ...!decvax!genrad!harvard!chavez ARPA: chavez@harvard.ARPA
myers@uwvax.ARPA (07/14/84)
CARP is an acronym for one of the plethora of Moonie front organizations,
the College Association for the Research of Principles. On occasion, they
invade Madison (though they've been quiet lately) to leaflet or sponsor an
event. Many come from Chicago and Milwaukee for big events.
Last year they twice brought in Eldridge Cleaver (the ex-Black Panther, now
turned rightist Mooney supporter (in my opinion, he's not sincere about
anything)), who was completely shouted down on his first appearance, and
provided an interesting spectacle on the second, with heckling back and
forth between Eldridge and the crowd. The University had to defend his
right to speak, but they the powers were none to pleased with the Moonies
afterwards.
They also have sponsored Judo exibitions, where they attempt to entice new
members.
From the previous message, it sounds as if the series of calls received by
the author of the original posting easily qualify as harassment. My advice
is to contact the phone company, tell them your story, and ask for their help
in quashing the Christian-in-name-but-not-in-spirit fascists who are
invading your privacy.
--
Jeff Myers
ARPA: myers@wisc-rsch.arpa
uucp: ..{seismo, ihnp4}!wisc-rsch!myerslab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) (07/16/84)
The Moonies have been masquerading as CARP (did I get the letters in the
right order? :-) for at least 10 years (they were at UCLA before I was).
That kind of shady practice alone should warrant avoiding them.
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The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford
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