ab3@pucc-h (Rich Kulawiec) (08/31/84)
Uh, excuse me, but could you take your "Science" elsewhere...like,
we aren't interested in your bullshit preaching here, eh?
"Evangelists of any sort should be shot on sight. Sooner, if possible."
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---Rsk
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{ decwrl, hplabs, icase, psuvax1, siemens, ucbvax } !purdue!rsk
It's better to burn out, than to fade away...aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) (08/31/84)
I hereby strongly disagree with Rsk's request to omit any "preaching" of
Eckankar. What else is this group for, if not for presentation of various
types of religions? I, for one, do not wish this group to be nothing
but a vehicle for Christian-bashing.
However, now that I'm posting an article, I will say that I deplore the
practice of apologists for many non-Christian beliefs of taking some
Christian phrase(s) and/or concept(s) and giving them a meaning quite
unlike that understood by those who are well acquainted with the way
Christianity works. Apparently the promulgators of Eckankar, like many
others, feel that, no matter how much their belief may differ from
Christianity, they have to give it some Christian flavor in order to
"sell" it in a society where Christianity is dominant.
Other than that, I thought it was a good article. I don't intend to begin
following/practicing/whatever Eckankar, but I thought the article was a
decent capsule presentation of it.
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-- Jeff Sargent
{decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|seismo|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq
"I may be rancid butter, but I'm on your side of the bread."aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) (08/31/84)
I hereby strongly disagree with Rsk's request to omit any "preaching" of
Eckankar. What else is this group for, if not for presentation of various
types of religions? I, for one, do not wish this group to be nothing
but a vehicle for Christian-bashing, or anybody-bashing.
However, now that I'm posting an article, I will say that I deplore the
practice of apologists for many non-Christian beliefs of taking some
Christian phrase(s) and/or concept(s) and giving them a meaning quite
unlike that understood by those who are well acquainted with the way
Christianity works. Apparently the promulgators of Eckankar, like many
others, feel that, no matter how much their belief may differ from
Christianity, they have to give it some Christian flavor in order to
"sell" it in a society where Christianity is dominant.
Other than that, I thought it was a good article. I don't intend to begin
following/practicing/whatever Eckankar, but I thought the article was a
decent capsule presentation of it.
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-- Jeff Sargent
{decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|seismo|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq
"I may be rancid butter, but I'm on your side of the bread."ab3@pucc-h (Rich Kulawiec) (08/31/84)
Jeff, there is a difference between discussing and proselytizing.
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---Rsk
UUCP: { decvax, icalqa, ihnp4, inuxc, sequent, uiucdcs } !pur-ee!rsk
{ decwrl, hplabs, icase, psuvax1, siemens, ucbvax } !purdue!rsk
It's better to burn out, than to fade away...rostig@fortune.UUCP (Grant Rostig) (09/06/84)
ECKANKAR; the Ancient Science of Soul Travel.
A fundamental premise of this science is that SUGMAD (God)
radiates the sustaining life force. A lowering of the vibratory
rate of this wave occurs as it travels through the realms of
existence and flows downward from a oneness to a duality. In
one of its lowest forms it is called electricity, lower still
mass. This wave also returns to its originator. Consciousness
can tune into this vibration to be carried back to its origin in
the heart of truth. There is an analogy to this in the cyclic
nature of all phenomena and experience in the dual worlds.
The divine spark of consciousness can place its attention in
the higher worlds of God through Soul Travel. Once separated
from the body consciousness the realms of experience are
broadened. St. Paul spoke of this as dieing daily. One can
travel through the astral, causal, mental, and etheric levels of
awareness. Once the threshold of the psychic realms is crossed;
time, space, and matter are no longer at issue, all duality
ceases and perhaps this can be called a true heaven. This stage
is where ECKANKAR leaves off. Here a quantum leap to ECK, the
Path of Total Awareness, takes place. The journey never ends.
Numerous techniques are documented in the works of Paul
Twitchell. They comprise the methods for experience of the dual
aspects of the SUGMAD, namely Light and Sound. Others cause a
tuning of the consciousness to the various manifestations of the
life force. Conscious communication with IT is established.
These experiences unfold Wisdom, Power, and Love.
May the Blessings Be;
Grant E. Rostig Fortune Systems, Redwood City, California
...!{ihnp4, ucbvax!amd, hpda, sri-unix, harpo}!fortune!rostig
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Grant E. Rostig Fortune Systems, Redwood City, California
...!{ihnp4, ucbvax!amd, hpda, sri-unix, harpo}!fortune!rostig