yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (David) (09/06/84)
When discussing the motivation of the Nazis a couple of things must be noted/included. The Holy Roman Empire came to an end if comparatively recent (medieval) times. The Second Holy Roman Empire was born in Europe soon after and lasted only briefly. I don't remember the dates but they can be found in some encyclopedias. The Third Reich was the The Third Holy Roman Empire. This too is documented in many encyclopedias. Christians tend to look back in retrospect and, if they don't approve of another Christian individual or group, assert that 'they' are not really Christians. Even currently, some Christians assert that the snakehandling groups are not Christians. And the holiness Christian groups insist that others are not Christians. The facts are that those outside of Christianity need to follow the adage 'if it looks like a duck', etc. The internal squabbling of 'I am and you're not' is irrevelant in my opinion. What is generally accepted as Christian today could be disavowed tomorrow if it turns out to be convenient. The Spanish Inquisition, Crusades and, yes, Hitler are examples of this. Sure, he thought aryans were a super race, he also thought they were instruments of the Divine Third Reich. This also makes it more clear why the Roman Catholic church had complicity even though some opposed complicity. Some records of this complicity have been in the news over the last year. The point here is that anti-semitism in the Third Reich was not unlike persecution by Christians in other times. The greatest difference seems (to me) to be that there was much more resistance/opposition within the Christian community to such persecution than, say, in the Spanish Inquisition or the Crusades (or I may simply be unaware of the befriending of Jews on the same scale during the SI or C). An interesting book covering some of this would be "The Conflict Between The Church and the Synagogue" by James Parkes as well as vol 2 of "A Social and Religious History of the Jews" by Salo Baron. Just as hatred of Jews is something I abhor, I also abhor hatred of Christians or any others. As a scholar (I hope), I also feel it is necessary to examine history as objectively and pragmatically as possible. We won't get far by seeing the past as we want it to be or by erasing unpleasant mistakes of the past. We should learn from them, not try to twist them into something more palatable (as I'm sure I'll be accused of here). Yirmiyahu ("Yiri") Ben-David