arndt@lymph.DEC (09/09/84)
Yiri baby. Do you include Jews too in the methodology by which you judge Christianity? That is, what about all the sects of Jews past and present arguing over who and what is a Jew. When the Romans came over the walls in Jerusalem those Jews holding the temple were still fighting those Jews out- side the temple. Seems like a fine ole Jewish way to pass the time that Christian just picked up? Or is it something larger in human nature? How do you decide who is a Jew? Because he says so? Or because he fits the description in the Torah, etc.? Or is anyone who says he's a Jew a Jew? Christians have the same problem. Some cases seem fairly clear. Like the great cosmic punching bag - Hitler. Surely if anyone was NOT a Christian despite any claims he may have made, he was not. Let's blame communism on Jews. There were enough of them in at the start. You seem to feel that there is no way to judge if a man is of a certain faith. What about someone who claims to be a Jewish Christian? Keep chargin' Ken Arndt
yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (David) (09/10/84)
It strikes me, Ken, that you find it much easier to launch a sophmoric attack in an attempt to change the subject rather than deal with the questions which were raised. At any rate, I'll proceed under the presumption that you really don't see the answers to the questions you raised. Jews disagree. They are Jews who disagree. (I'll leave the historical problems to be looked up in good reference books in any local library.) That some Jews were/are communists does not imply that communism can be blamed on them. This is the same kind of reasoning which has so ofter led to our persecution. Jews agree on this: someone who claims to be a Jewish Christian is not a Jew anymore than someone who was a Christian and became an athiest, Buddhist, etc. is still a Christian. Judaism and Christianity are mutually exclusive. If someone disputes this you are not listening to a Jew. He may have been born that way, but that is not the only consideration - even though they would like you to think so. Are you going to deal with the earlier issues or continue to change the subject with superficial obfuscations?