rsk@pucc-h (Rich Kulawiec (Vombatus Hirsutus)) (10/16/84)
After reading Tim's original article, and Ken Nichol's reply, I must
say that I find myself in near-total agreement with Tim. His statements clearly
articulate a position that I've held for some time, and his well-chosen words
say it more clearly than perhaps I ever have.
I felt Ken's reply was a wonderful example of what Mike Huybensz was
talking about in his article on "positive feedback"; I was hoping for a more
reasoned response from "the other camp", and I was disappointed by Ken's
avoidance of the issues; it seemed as though he preferred to answer Tim's
arguments with platitudes and circularly-reasoned statements about the
lowliness of man, and the elevation of god--and such positions have never
been terribly convincing to me, at least.
Wherever you are Tim, thank you.
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---Rsk
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"It'll definitely improve our reputation as a party school."
--anonymous Purdue student, on TV-18 (local) news, Saturday, 10/6/84
after a Friday night of spontaneous rioting.lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) (10/26/84)
Tim had posted his massive missive a couple of times before, each time
more illogical than before. Another netter and I each showed the
incredible illogic and implicit assumptions of the arguments.
Rather than reposting the entire rebuttal, I think I am safe by
classifying it along with:
Charles Lyell (whose _Principles of Geology had *the* major
influence on Charles Darwin)
Aldous Huxley (_Brave New World_ et al.)
Bertrand Russell (as Charley Wingate has pointed out so well)
They all wanted intellectual reasons to excuse their morals.
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