[net.religion] Mr. Ben David's position

aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) (10/31/84)

I know I'm likely to get flamed for this, but it does seem to me that Mr.
Ben David is so insistent on the Jewishness of Y'shua and the N'tzarim
because he finds it hard to accept that God might want to extend his love to
the entire world, not just the nation of Israel.  Did not God prophesy to
Abraham that through him *all* nations of the earth would be blessed?

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yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid) (11/04/84)

And so they can be, but not while continuing in their paganism. Does not
your own book mention repentance. If you understood the full meaning of
the term as it was intended by the Jewish authors you would have a
different outlook. If you think I'm against ANYONE coming to know God
you are badly mistaken. What I'm against is deception, falsity, twisting
and perverting manuscripts and misleading masses of people into
following a counterfeit image. That can never 'save' anyone. And
perpetuating the ignorance of all of this is a game of the blind leading
the blind. It was the authentic Jewish Y'shua who declared that you
should know the truth, and the truth would set you free. I suggest you
search MUCH more studiously for the truth.

mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) (11/08/84)

Yirmiyahu, if you are going to make statements like "If you understood the
full meaning of the term as it was intended by the Jewish authors you would
have a different outlook" [referring to "repentance"], expect us to demand
to know what YOU think this "intended meaning" is.  How are we supposed to
understand your argument when you won't even tell us what your position
means?  Without an explanation of what you think they meant by repentance,
you are just engaging in name-calling.

Try us.  We too are thinking human beings.

Charley Wingate    seismo!umcp-cs!mangoe