aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) (11/10/84)
From Rich Rosen (pyuxd!rlr): > my points may have been "repeated so often", but they usually go unanswered. I might mildly point out that either a) you have also, at times, left some points unanswered, or b) the articles containing those points never reached Piscataway. Prime example is: How do you explain the gifts of the Holy Spirit -- particularly the most common one, most commonly called "speaking in tongues"? How do you explain the fact that in May, 1972, a man laid his hands on me and prayed, and I received the ability to speak without conscious thought in a language I don't believe I've ever heard? And I'm not the only Christian of my acquaintance with this gift. > My appeals to people I disagree with often take the form of asking them to use > reasoning capacities that I think they might have to realize either the truth > in some point of mine or the fallacy in one of theirs. How about using your reasoning capacities to see the fallacies in some of your points? I am going to write a separate article (so it's short, and so it's more likely to be read) highly recommending a book which, using excellent logic, shows that it makes sense for there to be someone outside nature -- and demolishes the idea that the physical universe is all of reality. -- -- Jeff Sargent {decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|seismo|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq "I'm not asking for anyone's bleeding charity." "Then do. At once. Ask for the Bleeding Charity."
rsk@stat-l (Rich Kulawiec) (11/10/84)
>From: aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) >How do you explain the gifts of the Holy >Spirit -- particularly the most common one, most commonly called "speaking in >tongues"? How do you explain the fact that in May, 1972, a man laid his hands >on me and prayed, and I received the ability to speak without conscious thought >in a language I don't believe I've ever heard? And I'm not the only Christian >of my acquaintance with this gift. Before demanding an explanation for such a phenomenom, you prove that it actually occurred, AND that it is attributable to the "Holy Spirit" -- which of course means proving that such a thing exists, as well. However, offhand, I can think of a number of different explanations for such phenonenom; perhaps P.T. Barnum's favorite saying is most appropriate: "There's a sucker born every minute." -- Rich Kulawiec @ Purdue University Computing Center { decvax, ihnp4, uiucdcs } !pur-ee!rsk & { decwrl, hplabs, ucbvax } !purdue!rsk