[net.religion] Rich Rosen on Lewis on human thought

ddb@mrvax.DEC (DAVID DYER-BENNET MRO1-2/L14 DTN 231-4076) (12/07/84)

Much as I hate to say it, I think Rich Rosen missed the point in his
response to the C.S. Lewis quotes.  As I understand Lewis, he was
questioning the entire validity of human thought within a naturalist
perspective.  I don't see that the response addressed the issue at all.

This is a basic problem in most systems of philosophy.  Maybe all?
Since everything we know is filtered through human perception and thought,
if we can't trust that then we can't trust anything.  Further, it's
pretty easily demonstrated that we CAN'T in fact trust human thought or
perception.  This problem is just as severe for the dieists in the
audience, too.  They can't say that God guarantees their knowledge of
anything until after they've demonstrated their god, so they don't have
any more tools to work with than the rest of us at the beginning.

A detailed analysis of and solution to this basic philosophical problem
is considerably beyond the scope of this response -- or this responder, for
that matter.  However, I think that Descartes was pointing the right
way when he said "I think, therefore I am".  I'm as sure that I think as
I am of anything else.

(Fire prevention week:  In case nobody has noticed, I DON'T CLAIM TO
HAVE A SATISFACTORY SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS I DESCRIBE ABOVE.)

I think many of the details of the scientific methodology that has developed
over the years are intended precisely to attempt to counter the basic
problem that men are easily fooled, easily led, etc.  

			-- David Dyer-Bennet
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