gam@amdahl.UUCP (Gordon A. Moffett) (12/11/84)
I have decided to change the name of net.religion.christian to net.religion.xian. A "newgroup" message has been sent. Please avoid future use of net.religion.christian as I will rmgroup it in a week or so. Current postings to net.religion.christian should be moved to net.religion.xian by their authors. I am doing this because of a NOTES user who wrote me of the following problem: > Being on notes here rather than news, notesfile names get truncated to > the first 14 characters. Thus, net.religion.christian gets truncated to > net.religion.c . > > Our hub system (hpfcla), and probably a few other hubs, routinely purge all > control notesfiles (e.g., net.religion.ctl). Due to the truncation, anything > ending with '.ct' or '.c' also gets removed. > > The result of all this is that we can't receive net.religion.christian, since > it disappears every night... Could I suggest renaming it net.religion.xian, > or is it too late? I presume his reasoning for net.religion.xian was the accepted abbreviation of 'X' for "Christ" ("Ch" = greek "X"), and this seems fine with me. Since net.religion.christian is a relatively new group, and because the consequences of it not changing would be that some people would be cut off from it, I decided to make this change. My reason for changing it is not because the name is too long. However, as long as there are numerous NOTES users, the impact of the 14-char limit must be considered for uniqueness and for this unfortunate ".ctl" confusion. Send flames to net.flame. Yours for a better net, -- Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,amd,sun}!amdahl!gam 37 22'50" N / 121 59'12" W [ This is just me talking. ]
stein@fortune.UUCP (Mark Stein) (12/12/84)
> I have decided to change the name of net.religion.christian to > net.religion.xian. A "newgroup" message has been sent. > ... > My reason for changing it is not because the name is too long. > However, as long as there are numerous NOTES users, the impact > of the 14-char limit must be considered for uniqueness and for this > unfortunate ".ctl" confusion. It sure would have been nice to throw this open for discussion. If you had, you would have found out that notesfiles has this nice feature which allows arbitrary newsgroup names ("net.religion.christian") to be mapped to some arbitrary notesfile name (say "net.christian"). This can be done in the notesfile "newsgroups" file on the affected machines and would have the following syntax: notesfile:newsgroup net.christian:net.religion.christian B news newsgroup names were extended to get around the 14 character limitation. Why should a notesfile limitation dictate a name change, especially when notesfiles provides a solution to its own problem? Mark Stein Fortune Systems {ihnp4,nsc,hpda,amdcad,sri-unix}!fortune!stein
pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) (12/12/84)
Yes, please change it back. As has already been pointed out the change is unnecesary for notesfiles users, since there is a way around it. Even if there was a problem, it whould have been nice if you had at least consulted users of the group on the choice of a new name. I don't like 'xian'. I'm just bothered by replacing 'christ' with 'x'. I think that's reasonable for a Christian. What would have been wrong with "net.religion.christ"? That is the same length as "net.religion.jewish". Anyway, please change it back to net.religion.christian. Thanks, -- Paul Dubuc cbscc!pmd
aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) (12/13/84)
> net.religion.christian gets truncated to net.religion.c .
Finally, someone admits that they worship these machines, or at least the
language wherein most of their software is written. [1/2 :-)]
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