[net.religion] The Baha'i Faith - Eclectic?

walker@noscvax.UUCP (Janet M. Walker) (01/01/85)

Tim Maroney states:
>> Here is solid proof for my claim that Baha'i is not eclectic.  In fact, it
>> seems to do no more than reconcile Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.  Any
>> such statement about the "soul" is in conflict with Buddhism, which denies
>> the reality of the soul.  Roughly the same can be said for Taoism.
>> Furthermore, I am not familiar with any Hindu scriptures which would 
>> suggest anything of the sort...  The Baha'is are free to walk their path 
>> of monotheistic synthesis, but to call it "eclectic" is an absurdity.

It is very astute and very true to state  that  the  Baha'i  Faith  is  not
eclectic:  [  1) Choosing what appears to be the best from diverse sources,
systems, or styles. 2) Consisting of that  which  has  been  selected  from
diverse  sources,  systems,  or  styles.  -  American Heritage Dictionary ]
however, it is not a synthesis either.

Baha'u'llah, the founder of the Baha'i Faith states that Abraham,  Krishna,
Moses,  Zoraster, Buddha, Christ, and Muhammed were Manifestions of God and
were successively sent by God to PROGRESSIVELY educate a mankind  that  has
been  slowly  maturing.  I  feel  certain  that  there were others as well.
Certainly, among others, some of  the  prophets  of  the  American  Indians
fulfilled  the  requirements  of a true Manifestation of God.  However, the
above mentioned were founders of major religions and  all  of  them  denied
polytheism.

Baha'u'llah states": 
"The divine prophets have revealed and founded  religion.  They  have  laid
down  certain  laws  and heavenly principles for the guidance of mankind...
Gradually these heavenly teachings and foundations  of  reality  have  been
beclouded  by  human  interpretations  and dogmatic imitations of ancestral
beliefs...  The prophets of God voiced the spirit of unity  and  agreement.
They have been the founders of divine reality.  Therefore if the nations of
the world forsake imitations and investigate  the  reality  underlying  the
revealed Word of God they will agree and become reconciled.  For reality is
one and not multiple."

"These Manifestations of God have  each  a  twofold  station.  One  is  the
station  of  pure abstraction and essential unity.  In this respect if thou
callest them all by one name, and dost ascribe to them the same attributes,
thou  hast  not  erred  from  the  truth.  Even  as  He  hath revealed: 'No
distinction do We make between any of His Messengers.' For  they,  one  and
all summon the people of the earth to acknowledge the unity of God...  They
are all invested with the robe of prophethood, and  are  honored  with  the
mantle  of  glory...  These  Countenances  are the recipients of the Divine
Command, and the Day Springs of His revelation.  This Revelation is exalted
above  the veils of plurality and the exigencies of number.  Thus He saith:
'Our Cause is but One.' Inasmuch as the Cause is  one  and  the  same,  the
Exponents thereof must needs be one and the same...

The other station is the station of  distinction,  and  pertaineth  to  the
world  of  creation,  and to the limitations thereof.  In this respect each
Manifestation of God hath a distinct individuality, a definitely prescribed
mission,  a  predestined  revelation, and specially designated limitations.
Each one of them is known by  a  different  name,  is  characterized  by  a
special  attribute,  fulfills  a  definite mission, and is entrusted with a
particular Revelation...

It is because of this difference in their  station  and  mission  that  the
words  and  utterances  flowing from these Well Springs of Divine knowledge
appear to diverge and differ.  Otherwise, in the  eyes  of  them  that  are
initiated into the mysteries of Divine wisdom, all their utterances are, in
reality, but the expressions of one Truth.  As  most  of  the  people  have
failed  to  appreciate  those  stations  to  which  We have referred, they,
therefore, feel perplexed and dismayed at the varying utterances pronounced
by Manifestatons that are essentially one and the same."

Abdu'l-Baha, his son, further clarifies: "In further consideration of  this
subject,  I  wish  you to be fair and reasonable in your judgement, setting
aside all religious prejudices... the foundations of the religions  of  God
are  one  foundation.  This  foundation  is  not multiple for it is reality
itself.  Reality does not admit of multiplicity although each of the divine
religions  is  separable  into  two  divisions.  One  concerns the world of
morality and the ethical training of human nature.  It is directed  to  the
advancement  of the world of humanity in general; it reveals and inculcates
the knowledge of God and makes possible the discovery of  the  verities  of
life.  This  is  ideal  and  spiritual  teaching,  the essential quality of
divine religion and not subject to change or transformation.  It is the one
foundation  of  all  the  religions  of  God.  Therefore  the religions are
essentially one and the same.

The second classification or division comprises social laws and regulations
applicable  to  human conduct.  This is not the essential spiritual quality
of religion.  It is subject to change and transformation according  to  the
exigencies  and  requirements  of  time and place...  The exigencies of the
time of Moses justified cutting off a man's  hand  for  theft  but  such  a
penalty is not allowable now."

J.S.  Esselmont states: "The religion of God is One Religion, and  all  the
Prophets have taught it, but it is a living and growing thing, not lifeless
and unchanging.  In the teaching of Moses we see the Bud; in that of Christ
the  Flower; in that of Baha'u'llah the Fruit.  The flower does not destroy
the bud, nor does the fruit  destroy  the  flower.  It  destroys  not,  but
fulfills.  The bud scales must fall in order that the flower may bloom, and
the petals must fall that the fruit  may  grow  and  ripen.  Were  the  bud
scales  and  the  petals  wrong  or  useless,  then,  that  they  had to be
discarded?  Nay, both in their time were right and necesssary; without them
there  could  have  been  no  fruit.  So  it  is with the various prophetic
teachings; their externals change from age to age, but each  revelation  is
the  fulfillment of its predecessors; they are not separate or incongruous,
but different stages in the life history of One Religion, which has in turn
been  revealed  as  seed, as bud and as flower, and now enters the stage of
fruition." (This particular quote  was  directed  to  those  familiar  with
Judeo-Christian  religions  and  only  for that reason does not mention the
others.)

Therefore, in our belief, the Baha'i Faith is a continuation  of  the  same
Religion, religion renewed; not a new religion or a man-made composite.  It
addresses answers to a newly matured mankind which is capable of a  deeper,
more  complete understanding of those Eternal Truths which, in former times
were couched in terms and analogies which a less mature mankind  needed  in
order  to  comprehend.  It  also  gives spiritual and social laws very much
needed today such as:  Oneness of God,  Oneness  of  Religion,  Oneness  of
Mankind,  Elimination  of  Prejudice  of All Kinds, Individual Search after
Truth, Equality of Men and Women, Universal Education, Harmony  of  Science
and  Religion,  Protection of Cultural Diversity....  What a beautiful time
to live in!!!

  Janet M. Walker                            MILNET/ARPANET: walker@nosc
     UUCP: [ihnp4,akgua,decvax,dcdwest,ucbvax]!sdcsvax!noscvax!walker
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            "Ye are all the fruits of one tree, the leaves
               of one branch, the flowers of one garden."
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walker@noscvax.UUCP (Janet M. Walker) (01/01/85)

.Tim Maroney states:
>> Here is solid proof for my claim that Baha'i is not eclectic.  In  fact,
>> it  seems to do no more than reconcile Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
>> Any such statement about the "soul" is in conflict with Buddhism,  which
>> denies  the  reality  of  the  soul.  Roughly  the  same can be said for
>> Taoism.  Furthermore, I am not familiar with any Hindu scriptures  which
>> would suggest anything of the sort, nor scriptures or tales of any other
>> polytheistic religion...The Baha'is are  free  to  walk  their  path  of
>> monotheistic synthesis, but to call it "eclectic" is an absurdity.

It is very astute and very true to state  that  the  Baha'i  Faith  is  not
eclectic:  [  1) Choosing what appears to be the best from diverse sources,
systems, or styles. 2) Consisting of that  which  has  been  selected  from
diverse  sources,  systems,  or  styles.  -  American Heritage Dictionary ]
however, it is not a synthesis either.

Baha'u'llah, the founder of the Baha'i Faith, states that Abraham, Krishna,
Moses,  Zoraster, Buddha, Christ, and Muhammed were Manifestions of God and
were successively sent by God to PROGRESSIVELY educate a mankind  that  has
been  slowly  maturing.  I  feel  certain  that  there were others as well.
Certainly, among others, some of  the  prophets  of  the  American  Indians
fulfilled the requirements of a true Manifestation  of  God.  However,  the
above  mentioned were founders of major religions.  No religion which gives
moral teachings is bad.  I even wonder  if  polytheism,  which  is  a  more
ancestral  belief,  didn't  really  often  come about by splitting of God's
attributes into distinct divisions.

Baha'u'llah states": 
"The divine prophets have revealed and founded  religion.  They  have  laid
down  certain  laws  and heavenly principles for the guidance of mankind...
Gradually these heavenly teachings and foundations  of  reality  have  been
beclouded  by  human  interpretations  and dogmatic imitations of ancestral
beliefs...  The prophets of God voiced the spirit of unity  and  agreement.
They have been the founders of divine reality.  Therefore if the nations of
the world forsake imitations and investigate  the  reality  underlying  the
revealed Word of God they will agree and become reconciled.  For reality is
one and not multiple."

"These Manifestations of God have  each  a  twofold  station.  One  is  the
station  of  pure abstraction and essential unity.  In this respect if thou
callest them all by one name, and dost ascribe to them the same attributes,
thou  hast  not  erred  from  the  truth.  Even  as  He  hath revealed: 'No
distinction do We make between any of His Messengers.' For  they,  one  and
all summon the people of the earth to acknowledge the unity of God...  They
are all invested with the robe of prophethood, and  are  honored  with  the
mantle  of  glory...  These  Countenances  are the recipients of the Divine
Command, and the Day Springs of His revelation.  This Revelation is exalted
above  the veils of plurality and the exigencies of number.  Thus He saith:
'Our Cause is but One.' Inasmuch as the Cause is  one  and  the  same,  the
Exponents thereof must needs be one and the same...

The other station is the station of  distinction,  and  pertaineth  to  the
world  of  creation,  and to the limitations thereof.  In this respect each
Manifestation of God hath a distinct individuality, a definitely prescribed
mission,  a  predestined  revelation, and specially designated limitations.
Each one of them is known by  a  different  name,  is  characterized  by  a
special  attribute,  fulfills  a  definite mission, and is entrusted with a
particular Revelation...

It is because of this difference in their  station  and  mission  that  the
words  and  utterances  flowing from these Well Springs of Divine knowledge
appear to diverge and differ.  Otherwise, in the  eyes  of  them  that  are
initiated into the mysteries of Divine wisdom, all their utterances are, in
reality, but the expressions of one Truth.  As  most  of  the  people  have
failed  to  appreciate  those  stations  to  which  We have referred, they,
therefore, feel perplexed and dismayed at the varying utterances pronounced
by Manifestatons that are essentially one and the same."

Abdu'l-Baha, his son, further clarifies: "In further consideration of  this
subject,  I  wish  you to be fair and reasonable in your judgement, setting
aside all religious prejudices... the foundations of the religions  of  God
are  one  foundation.  This  foundation  is  not multiple for it is reality
itself.  Reality does not admit of multiplicity although each of the divine
religions  is  separable  into  two  divisions.  One  concerns the world of
morality and the ethical training of human nature.  It is directed  to  the
advancement  of the world of humanity in general; it reveals and inculcates
the knowledge of God and makes possible the discovery of  the  verities  of
life.  This  is  ideal  and  spiritual  teaching,  the essential quality of
divine religion and not subject to change or transformation.  It is the one
foundation  of  all  the  religions  of  God.  Therefore  the religions are
essentially one and the same.

The second classification or division comprises social laws and regulations
applicable  to  human conduct.  This is not the essential spiritual quality
of religion.  It is subject to change and transformation according  to  the
exigencies  and  requirements  of  time and place...  The exigencies of the
time of Moses justified cutting off a man's  hand  for  theft  but  such  a
penalty is not allowable now."

J.S.  Esselmont states: "The religion of God is One Religion, and  all  the
Prophets have taught it, but it is a living and growing thing, not lifeless
and unchanging.  In the teaching of Moses we see the Bud; in that of Christ
the  Flower; in that of Baha'u'llah the Fruit.  The flower does not destroy
the bud, nor does the fruit  destroy  the  flower.  It  destroys  not,  but
fulfills.  The bud scales must fall in order that the flower may bloom, and
the petals must fall that the fruit  may  grow  and  ripen.  Were  the  bud
scales  and  the  petals  wrong  or  useless,  then,  that  they  had to be
discarded?  Nay, both in their time were right and necesssary; without them
there  could  have  been  no  fruit.  So  it  is with the various prophetic
teachings; their externals change from age to age, but each  revelation  is
the  fulfillment of its predecessors; they are not separate or incongruous,
but different stages in the life history of One Religion, which has in turn
been  revealed  as  seed, as bud and as flower, and now enters the stage of
fruition." (This particular quote  was  directed  to  those  familiar  with
Judeo-Christian  religions  and  only  for that reason does not mention the
others.)

Therefore, in our belief, the Baha'i Faith is a continuation  of  the  same
Religion, religion renewed; not a new religion or a man-made composite.  It
addresses answers to a newly matured mankind which is capable of a  deeper,
more  complete understanding of those Eternal Truths which, in former times
were couched in terms and analogies which a less mature mankind  needed  in
order  to  comprehend.  It  also  gives spiritual and social laws very much
needed today such as:  Oneness of God,  Oneness  of  Religion,  Oneness  of
Mankind,  Elimination  of  Prejudice  of All Kinds, Individual Search after
Truth, Equality of Men and Women, Universal Education, Harmony  of  Science
and  Religion,  Protection of Cultural Diversity....  What a beautiful time
to live in!!!

  Janet M. Walker                            MILNET/ARPANET: walker@nosc
     UUCP: [ihnp4,akgua,decvax,dcdwest,ucbvax]!sdcsvax!noscvax!walker
                               ----------
            "Ye are all the fruits of one tree, the leaves
               of one branch, the flowers of one garden."
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