arndt@lymph.DEC (02/12/85)
I couldn't say it any better myself, so that's why I'll quote him Rich, so
listen to that famous TV bible preacher Robert Jastrow:
"For the scientist who has lived by his faith (his word) in the power of
reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of
ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself
over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been
sitting there for centuries."
GOD AND THE ASTRONOMERS, (NY:WW Norton,1978)p116.
He is talking, of course, about the search for the origin of the universe
and our current understanding in the 'Big Bang' theory.
It seems that as we peep through the keyhole we suddenly see GOD's eye
looking back at us (and I think I hear the sound of laughter).
Always like to share a good joke.
Keep chargin'
Ken Arndtmrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) (02/12/85)
In article <539@decwrl.UUCP> arndt@lymph.DEC writes: > "For the scientist who has lived by his faith (his word) in the power of > reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of > ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself > over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been > sitting there for centuries." > GOD AND THE ASTRONOMERS, (NY:WW Norton,1978)p116. > He is talking, of course, about the search for the origin of the universe > and our current understanding in the 'Big Bang' theory. Isaac Asimov wrote a scathing and telling critique of that paragraph, which was reprinted in Skeptical Enquirer magazine a few years back. Why not check that out and report to us, Ken? Or do you just like pulling our tails? :-) (For your convenience, one of the arguments Asimov makes is that there are rather few theories possible for how the universe came to exist: all at once, or always existing, etc. And there are several religions using each theory. So, no matter what theory is prevalent, some religion can claim confirmation of its doctrines. Another argument is that genesis corresponds poorly to astronomical theories, according to most creationists.) -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh
mike@amdcad.UUCP (Mike Parker) (02/13/85)
> > He is talking, of course, about the search for the origin of the universe > and our current understanding in the 'Big Bang' theory. > > It seems that as we peep through the keyhole we suddenly see GOD's eye > looking back at us (and I think I hear the sound of laughter). > > Always like to share a good joke. > > Keep chargin' > > Ken Arndt I went to college with David Penzias, son of Arno Penzias, nobel prize winner, who supposedly proved that the big bang happened by measuring the correct level of background radiation with a radio telescope. ( Go ahead flame me, I never was much of an astronomer, thats the way I remember it) Dave got his dad to come down to school and give a guest lecture about the subject to a bunch of us. I don't remember his exact words but he claimed that the whole thing constituted proof of the existence of a God. Keep chargin' Mike Parker
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (02/13/85)
> I couldn't say it any better myself, so that's why I'll quote him Rich, so > listen to that famous TV bible preacher Robert Jastrow: > > "For the scientist who has lived by his faith (his word) in the power of > reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of > ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself > over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been > sitting there for centuries." > GOD AND THE ASTRONOMERS, (NY:WW Norton,1978)p116. Calling across the abyss from a nearby man-made mountain, Ken? If this doesn't reek of presumption I don't know what does. We'll know only when we get there who (if anyone) is waiting to greet us there, and who else (if anyone) might be waiting in the wrong place to greet us. ("What's keeping those damned scientists? You'd think they'd have gotten here to the obviously correct place where *I'm* sitting by now...") > He is talking, of course, about the search for the origin of the universe > and our current understanding in the 'Big Bang' theory. > It seems that as we peep through the keyhole we suddenly see GOD's eye > looking back at us (and I think I hear the sound of laughter). Given your incredible presumptions (Who's seen god's eye? Where? In the mirror?), I'm not surprised that you hear people laughing... -- "I don't understand. Is it modern?" Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (02/14/85)
> I went to college with David Penzias, son of Arno Penzias, nobel > prize winner, who supposedly proved that the big bang happened by > measuring the correct level of background radiation with a radio > telescope. ( Go ahead flame me, I never was much of an astronomer, > thats the way I remember it) > > Dave got his dad to come down to school and give a guest lecture > about the subject to a bunch of us. I don't remember his exact > words but he claimed that the whole thing constituted proof of > the existence of a God. Proof of existence which god? Undoubtly, Zeus! No, I think it is Obizmo! -- Yosi Hoshen, Bell Laboratories Naperville, Illinois, (312)-979-7321, Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho
ethan@utastro.UUCP (Ethan Vishniac) (02/14/85)
> > Dave got his dad to come down to school and give a guest lecture > about the subject to a bunch of us. I don't remember his exact > words but he claimed that the whole thing constituted proof of > the existence of a God. > > Keep chargin' > > Mike Parker *** REPLACE THIS LINE *** (please) Thank you for settling the issue. Your piercing, insightful comments have laid to rest my doubts. "Don't argue with a fool. Ethan Vishniac Borrow his money." {charm,ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao}!utastro!ethan Department of Astronomy University of Texas Austin, Texas 78712
larry@cci-bdc.UUCP (Larry DeLuca) (02/15/85)
> I couldn't say it any better myself, so that's why I'll quote him Rich, so > listen to that famous TV bible preacher Robert Jastrow: > > "For the scientist who has lived by his faith (his word) in the power of > reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of > ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself > over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been > sitting there for centuries." > GOD AND THE ASTRONOMERS, (NY:WW Norton,1978)p116. Barf me OUT!!! > He is talking, of course, about the search for the origin of the universe > and our current understanding in the 'Big Bang' theory. > It seems that as we peep through the keyhole we suddenly see GOD's eye > looking back at us (and I think I hear the sound of laughter). if i saw god's eye staring through the keyhole i'd be embarrassed that i was caught spying on him in the bathroom. larry... -- uucp: ..mit-eddie!cybvax0!cci-bdc!larry arpa: henrik@mit-mc.ARPA This mind intentionally left blank.
david@daisy.UUCP (David Schachter) (02/20/85)
In Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the proof goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith and without
faith, I am nothing."
"But", says Man, "the Babelfish is a dead give-away. Surely something so
mind-bogglingly useful as that couldn't evolve by chance. Therefore, you
exist."
"Oh.", says God, "I hadn't thought of that." and promptly vanishes in a
puff of logic.
Pleased with himself, Man goes on to prove that Black is White and gets
killed at the next zebra crossing.
(In Britain, where the Guide originated, a zebra crossing is a pedestrian
crosswalk.)
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