[net.religion] stuff & nonsense

merrill@rex.DEC (03/01/85)

Odds and ends:


> I mean Rich is 
> Mr. Materialism and Tim floats all kinds of mystical crap ...

I'll second that e-motion!


Item we never finished reading:

      "In a free market, the amount of money you make corresponds directly
      to the excess in value of the services you have performed ..."



To Ken Arndt, The smiley face is a substitute for voice inflections, see:-)?


In Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the proof goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith and without
faith, I am nothing."
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^
      "I AM UNHAPPY" WOULD BE MORE LIKE IT.

"But", says Man, "the Babelfish is a dead give-away.  Surely something so
mind-bogglingly useful as that couldn't evolve by chance.  Therefore, you
exist."

"EVOLVE BY CHANCE" IS SELF-CONTRADICTORY - I HOPE ALL HERE REALIZE THAT!

gam@amdahl.UUCP (gam) (03/02/85)

> "EVOLVE BY CHANCE" IS SELF-CONTRADICTORY - I HOPE ALL HERE REALIZE THAT!

Uh, this isn't really the place to discuss it, but I cannot allow
that statement to go unchallenged.

It is precisely that it is all by chance that makes it so interesting.
We are the result of billions of years random mutations.  The 'good'
ones survived to reproduce, the 'bad' ones didn't.  Such a system
can't help but produce progressively more advanced creatures.

I will not argue this further in this newsgroup.
-- 
Gordon A. Moffett		...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam

rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (03/03/85)

> Odds and ends:  [from MERRILL]

(Actually, ALL nonsense and no stuff.)

>>I mean Rich is 
>>Mr. Materialism and Tim floats all kinds of mystical crap ...

> I'll second that e-motion!

Huh?

> In Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the proof goes something like this:
> "I refuse to prove I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith and without
> faith, I am nothing."
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       "I AM UNHAPPY" WOULD BE MORE LIKE IT.
> 
> "But", says Man, "the Babelfish is a dead give-away.  Surely something so
> mind-bogglingly useful as that couldn't evolve by chance.  Therefore, you
> exist."
> 
> "EVOLVE BY CHANCE" IS SELF-CONTRADICTORY - I HOPE ALL HERE REALIZE THAT!

It is?  Could this be explained?
-- 
Life is complex.  It has real and imaginary parts.
					Rich Rosen  ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr

rap@oliven.UUCP (Robert A. Pease) (03/06/85)

.

Misquotes are not nice.

>In Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the proof goes something like this:
>"I refuse to prove I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith and without
>faith, I am nothing."
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      "I AM UNHAPPY" WOULD BE MORE LIKE IT.
>
>"But", says Man, "the Babelfish is a dead give-away.  Surely something so
>mind-bogglingly useful as that couldn't evolve by chance.  Therefore, you
>exist."

What the book sais is;

"But", says Man, "the Babelfish is a  dead  give-away,  isn't  it?  It
could  not  have  evolved by chance.  It proves that you exist, and so
therefore, by your own arguments, you don't.  QED."

"Oh dear," sais God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes
in a puff of logic.
-- 

					Robert A. Pease
    {hplabs|zehntel|fortune|ios|tolerant|allegra|tymix}!oliveb!oliven!rap