amra@ihu1n.UUCP (s. aldrich) (03/05/85)
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Don,
Although you are entitled to hold your particular view(s), I believe
there are MANY OTHERS in the world at large who may not. I'd like to
make a few brief comments on a couple of the points you addressed.
Here goes.......
YOU STATE:
From: black@nisysg.DEC
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Faux pas; Identity
Message-ID: <715@decwrl.UUCP>
Please also understand that there are also some of us who, while being ded-
icated to the concept of the equality of the sexes, firmly believe that the
philosophies of Unisex and/or Homosexuality are distasteful at best.
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Why have you lumped UNISEX & HOMOSEXUALITY TOGETHER? Since when
have "Androgeny" & "Homosexuality" been interchangeable? Last I heard
they are totally seperate issues/concepts/practices. What should be done
with those persons who choose NOT to "CONFORM" to YOUR STANDARDS of
"NORMALITY"? Also, are you implying that the "women's movement" is
"responsible" for both the Unisex & Homosexual movements? Please, I'd
really be interested to hear your reply. SLA
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People tend to follow the crowd, and pick up the currently popular fads.
"Try it, you'll like it."
**** MY COMMENTS: ******
Gee, this sounds like a very close "approximation" of why some, (many?)
people join "Organized Religious Movements", such as the {Non}-Moral
{NON}-Majority, to me. If everyone would only think/act/speak/etc...
the same, it would resolve All of our differences right? :-)
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I submit that most of the problems in today's modern world are caused
by the discarding of the old traditions, beliefs, and liturgies by the world's
major religions. I believe that a general return to the Old Ways would
bring a substantial improvement to the quality of life for the world. I
personnally have found that my understanding of the world around me, and
my sense of purpose in life, has improved greatly since I discovered a
Conservative belief about religion.
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I disagree very strongly with the above comments. In my opinion, for
what *little* that's worth, many of "Today Problems.." are so bad because
of the "Good-Old-Days" which you're so fond of. Back then people didn't
address/re-dress these problems, they "usually" IGNORED THEM ALTOGETHER!
Are you implying that in the "Good Old Days" people didn't sexually
molest their children or others? What about Slavery? What about Racial
Segregation? What about "Homosexuals"? WHat about ......? You can't really
think these problems are only "recent" ones can you? Comments?.....
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And I haven't yet found any of our clergy advocating the
opening of "refugee" camps or the displacement of other religious or ethnic
groups. On the other hand, there are undeniably several movements whose
only goal is to destroy religion and enslave anyone who espouses it.
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No, but they have begun "BURNING BOOKS & RECORDS" which is only a
short step away. They Also wish to "BAN CERTAIN BOOKS" from our school
systems. Sounds like they're already on their way to re-instating the
"witch-hunt" again in society. Also, I seem to recall that in the
"Good Old Days" that numerous "Religious Authorities" instigated "movements
to destroy and enslave any group or individual who didn't go along with
"THEIR VERSION" of reality! I'm not advocating the abolition of religion,
but it has had more than a few "Crusades" to wipe the Heathens/Pagans
off the face of the planet! Try Reading some History Books for a change!
There are other good books besides "THE GOOD BOOK" around.
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I'd be interested to hear your followup to the above Don. I hope to hear
from you ASAP on this. If I've made some "errors" please correct me. I try
to keep an open mind on these things.
Maybe that is what's REALLY is bothering you about "todays society"; too
many people who think for themselves.
PEACE & BEST WISHES
From THE Resident Zen-Baptist:
Steven L. Aldrich (ihnp4!ihu1n!amra)
"...Your Daily Life Is Your Temple & Your Religion! Whenever You Enter
Into It, Take With You Your All." From "The Prophet "
P.S. If we MUST GO BACKWARD in time, let's be SMART and return to the
TREES!" There'd be a lot less sufferring for the PLANET if we only
could/would! If those little furry critters had stayed where they
were, this whole argument would be POINTLESS! OOPS, I forgot YOU
,and your kind, NEVER EVOLVED! Maybe THAT's the REAL Problem. :-)amra@ihu1n.UUCP (s. aldrich) (03/06/85)
{ SPACE....The Emptiness Between Our Ears! :-) }
In My Previous Posting I made a SLIGHT Error in my opening statements.
Please allow me to correct this over-sight. See Below for correction...
> Don,
>
> Although you are entitled to hold your particular view(s), I believe
> there are MANY OTHERS in the world at large who may not. I'd like to
> make a few brief comments on a couple of the points you addressed.
Don,
Although you are entitled to hold your particular view(s), I believe
there are MANY OTHERS in the world who may not agree with you. I'd like to
make a few brief comments on a couple of the points you addressed.
I hope this clears up any "confusion" as to my intent. My regrets for
this glaring error! Mea Culpa.....
PEACE & BEST WISHES
From THE Resident Zen-Baptist:
Steven L. Aldrich (ihnp4!ihu1n!amra)
"...Your Daily Life Is Your Temple & Your Religion! Whenever You Enter
Into It, Take With You Your All." From "The Prophet "steiny@scc.UUCP (Don Steiny) (03/18/85)
> > Why have you lumped UNISEX & HOMOSEXUALITY TOGETHER? Since when > have "Androgeny" & "Homosexuality" been interchangeable? Last I heard > they are totally seperate issues/concepts/practices. > A few weeks ago I overheard a conversation in the 7-11 between two young women. One saw a picture of Prince or Michael Jackson (or somebody like that) and said to the other "I wonder if he is androgenous?" (I got real interested, wondering why she didn't just look at his picture on the cover of the magazine to find out). The other said "What does androgenous mean?" (I lucked out!). The first said, "you know, they are both sexes." After looking through the magazine for a moment she said "ah yes, here it is, he's androgenous!" It seems that she confused the word "androgenous" with "hermaphroditic". Perhaps the confusion is more common than I realized. -- scc!steiny Don Steiny - Personetics @ (408) 425-0382 ihnp4!pesnta -\ 109 Torrey Pine Terr. ucbvax!twg --> scc!steiny Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 fortune!idsvax -/