[net.religion] Identity Christianity

wkp@lanl.ARPA (03/20/85)

[From Don Black:]
>	     When I first submitted to this net, I asked if there were any 
>	Identity Christians in the group.  Apparently there are not.  Let
>	me explain a little of our precepts then.

For a good discussion of the beliefs and history of Identity Christians,
I refer all interested people to a recent article in Time magazine (in
February).  Of particular interest is the discussion of the new national
communication links (by computer) of the various Identity Christian
groups (Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations, etc.).

If there are requests, I can post the article in net.religion when I
come back from Washington DC next week.

>	     Identity Christianity simply believes that Christians are the
>	true Israelites, God's true Chosen People, and that America is the
>	true Promised Land.

There seems to be a discrepancy here between what Black says and what
the founder and supporters of Identity Christianity say.  In fact,
only the Aryan peoples are god's chosen people according to Identity
Christian dogma, and America is god's chosen land.         

>	We also believe that scripture tells us
>	exactly what to expect from the Antichrist, how to identify
>	the Antichrist, and how to conduct ourselves accordingly.

When I have more time to respond, I'll provide references for further  
reading of the Identity Christian dogma of the Antichrist.  One of
Black's heroes, Ernst Zundel, gives a good discussion of this in his
book "The Hitler that we loved."
--

bill peter
cmcl2!lanl!wkp

jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (03/23/85)

In recent articles, Bill Peter and Byron C. Howes have presented
a somewhat distorted view of Identity Christianity.  It is quite
clear that their information is inaccurate, since I have been
able to collect different pieces of information.  So, let me
share the information I have heard with the net.

A.  Identity Christians, abbreviated as ICs, are agents of the
soviet KGB.  Prior to the recent summer Olympics, they sent
out threat letters to the heads of the various national teams.
These letters were signed by the KKK, however the FBI determined
that this was the work of the KGB, or more precisely, the work
of the KGB agents in the US the ICs.

B. The ICs claim to be the true Christians.  This claim reflects
quite accurately their religious practice during the daylight
hours.  However, during the night the ICs practice quite a
different religion.  Bill Peter correctly stated:

>	     Identity Christianity simply believes that Christians are the
>	true Israelites, God's true Chosen People, and that America is the
>	true Promised Land.

To prove their true Israelite nature the ICs worship during the
night time the ancient Emorite God the Molech.  You may recall
that during the early days of the Israelites in Cna'an (ancient
Israel) the Israelites worshipped the indigenous gods, in preference
to their own god: "And the Israelites ... served the Ba'als and the
Ashtaroth, the gods of Syria, the gods of Sidon, the gods of moab, 
the gods of the Ammonites, and the gods of the Philistines; and they
forsook the Lord, ..." (Judges 10:6).  Since the ICs are the modern 
Israelites they addopted the practices of the ancient Israelites,
such as Molech worship.

As you all know the Molech require human sacrifice, preferably,
young female virgins of the age of eighteen.  Unfortunately, in 
the light of the shortage of eighteen years old virgins in the US
(for obvious reasons), the ICs had to settle for younger virgins,
fourteen years old.  (This fact explains why there has been
in recent years a surge in the  disappearance of 14 years old
girls).  The reason that it is hard to trace the missing girls
is that the ICs, as a part of the religious cermony, eat the
remains of the objects of their sacrifice.

I cannot give you all the details of the religious practices of
the ICs.  But for those of you who would like to obtain more
comprehensive knowledge on this topic, I suggest the new
video release "The IC Makers".  This video can be purchased
at OZ's Video Classics in Odintown, Michigan (Upper Peninsula).

I am sure that some of you may wonder, what are the sources
of my information.  You can be reassured,  these sources are
very credible, since they are precisely the same sources that
provided Don Black with his information.  So if any of you
would like to have more information on the ICs' religious practices
and habits, I advice you to contact Don,  who will undoubtly
confirm my facts by consulting his information sources.
-- 

Yosi Hoshen, Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois, (312)-979-7321, Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho