[net.religion] Arguments From Silence: Golden or..

amra@ihu1n.UUCP (s. aldrich) (03/30/85)

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> I have to say first off that I am torn between admiring
> Jeffrey's idealism and being outraged at what appears to me to
> be cockeyed optimism.  While it is nice to know that people of
> childlike faith still exist in the world, it hurts like hell to
> see them waste their faith on a jerk like Black.
> 
> To quote someone, "It looks like a duck, acts like a duck,
> waddles like a duck.  If it quacks, shoot it."  If Jeffrey isn't
> convinced by now that Don ultimately *isn't* "thoroughly
> narrowminded, ignorant, and bigoted," I suspect there is very
> little anyone can say, including Black himself, to change his
> mind.  I think that in the case of Don Black, Truth has already
> won out in the minds of most people (or I hope it has):  the man
> is a raving loonie, and his opinions are dangerous to boot.
> 
> In answer to at least one of Jeffrey's rhetorical questions, I
> doubt that Don will ever *realize* that six million Jews
> perished in Nazi death camps.  I doubt that Don will give up his
> belief in Christ the man as a blue-eyed blond.  I do think,
> judging from the sheer volume of the man's erroneous beliefs,
> that he's got a whole separate philosophical/historical reality
> built up in his head, and I doubt anything we argue will really
> change his fundamental suppositions.
> 
> Don Black's litany of hate is fairly easy for me to refute and
> go on peacefully, since it is so obvious.  Jeffrey's misdirected
> idealism frightens me, since if he can believe that Black is
> fundamentally a reasonable and rational man who has been
> terribly misinformed, he can believe the same of Hitler, Genghis
> Khan, Pieter Botha, Joseph McCarthy, Kramer and Sprengler, and
> the peddlers of hate in every era.  And too many people believed
> that Hitler was fundamentally reasonable for too long, the
> United States and Britain especially.  Hate is very difficult to
> stop with faith and reason.  Hate destroys.  I don't care to
> leave Don Black's ravings unanswered and wait for God to decide.
> Don can do too much damage in the meantime.  If Jeffrey is any
> example, he already has.
> 
> Send me mail;  I love mail.
> 
> Ellen


{..."We're Gonna Rock & Roll Ya' Now!" }

  I CONCUR WITH ELLEN, it is high time you "sheep" woke up!
 People such as Black MUST BE denounced at EVERY INSTANCE to
 insure that they do NOT establish a "strangle-hold" upon society!

 Ellen correctly states that the "lack of opposition" to Hitler was
 one of his BIGGEST ASSETS in being ELECTED to OFFICE! IF ENOUGH
 PEOPLE had Countered his BULLSHIT from the Beginning, there is a 
 very good probability that he would not have risen to power by
 "DEMOCRATIC" means. Never Forget that people such as Yourselves 
 helped elect (and voted for) him in the democracy of Germany.
 The SILENT MAJORITY (formerly "called" MORAL) does nothing but procrastinate
 until it is too late!

  I find the lack of Christian concern to be thoroughly reprehensible!
  If it weren't for people such as Rich Rosen, Ellen, Tim Maroney,
  Myself, (and others who have the "decency" to RESIST this lunatic
  fringe BEFORE it becomes the STATUS QUO!), how long do you  
  think "democracy" and/or religious freedom would continue to exist?

  Wake Up And Smell The Coffee before someone sticks your face
   in the grounds! No wonder many people don't accept the validity
  of your "stated beliefs"! It's really just a farce!

  I am open to comments from the Other Side of this dis-agreemeent,
 if you'd care to discuss matters at hand.


  Peace & Best Wishes
 From The Resident Zen-Baptist:
  Steve Aldrich (ihnp4!ihu1n!amra)

 "Preacher-Man Talkin' On TV, Puttin' Down The Rock & Roll. Wants Me
   To Send A Donation 'Cause He's Worried About My Soul." 

  P.S. Is This An Example of the, so called, Moral-Majorities Morals???