brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) (03/21/85)
I am going to quote an entire article from the newspaper "Sentinel USA" a San Francisco gay publication just to get it out. It describes the feelings that at least some of us have toward gay liberation. ________________________________________________________________________ _A_Disturbed_Peace_ _Another Egypt_ by Brian McNaught These can be dark and dreary times for many gay men and lesbians. For some of the people in our developing community, the events of these days even prompt moments of despair; of angry denunciations of being gay; of periodic longings for the security of the life they "remember" having before coming out of the closet. The reasons for these feelings of anxiety are numerous and certainly understandable. Some of us, for instance, live in cities in which 60% of the beds in our hospitals' intensive care units are occupied by persons with AIDS. We've lost good friends. We live in fear of losing others and of contacting AIDS ourselves. We're confused and alarmed. Some of us live in states where moronic legislators speak carelessly of quarantining us in the public interest. Our local authorities seek to close our bathhouses and, though we are not patrons of the baths, we wonder where they will stop. We're frightened and angry. Some of us make our homes in places where our neighbors and our associates voted overwhelmingly to rescind our rights to employment. Some of us go to schools where straight students have sold hundreds of "Fagbuster" sweatshirts. Some of us live in towns where anti-gay violence is dramatically on the rise. We're shocked and we're depressed. "Why did we ever leave the closet?" some of us ask. "What did we accomplish by coming out? At least we were safe when we pretended to be straight," some of us argue. "Even if it wasn't a perfect life, it was better to be safe passing for straight than to die out of the closet." If we gay people listen carefully, we can hear other voices echo our anxiety. When the Jews left Egypt, many of them did so with mixed emotions. They were excited by the sense of independence and self-determination which Moses promised them, but they were also frightened of the unknown. When they realized that Pharaoh and his army were rapidly pursuing them, some of them yelled at Moses, "Why did you do this to us? Why did you bring us out of Egypt? Did we not tell you this in Egypt when we said, 'Leave us alone. Leave us serve the Egyptians'? Far better for us to be the slaves of the Egyptians than to die in the desert." Moses was probably hurt and confused by the frightened and angry responses of his people. Had he made a mistake in leaving Egypt? Was it better to be a slave? Why had he left in the first place? It was the voice which led Moses out of Egypt, and it was the voice in which he ultimately placed his trust. The voice that which led Moses and the Jews out of slavery is the exact same voice which whispered a dream to Martin Luther King, Jr. The voice which led an entire nation of Jews into a 40-year wandering in the desert is the same voice which led Ghandi to burn his English-made clothes, which led Caesar Chavez to politically organize his family and friends in the vineyards of California, which led Margaret Sanger to defy the law by providing birth control information to women. The voice which speaks is the voice of God, which is the voice of life, which is the voice of self-affirmation. Moses heard the voice say, "I am what I am." Albin clears the stage in _La_Cage_Aux_Folles to proclaim "I am what I am." The voice within is a constant but generally subtle longing to live life fully and equally; to live life authentically and to die knowing that you have bloomed to your full potential. The voice within is the persons best friend. It is also a troubleraker. The voice within sings an anthem of independence. Listening to it can prompt you to do and say things you never imagined were within you. Following its call to action can create all sorts of trouble. Family and friends will say "You've changed." Employeers will get nervous that you are getting out of line. Priests and rabbis will begin warning you of the sins of pride and reminding you of the perils of heresy. People who listen to the voice almost always lose the security with which society had rewarded them for staying in line; for staying in Egypt; for staying on the plantation; for staying in the closet. When you listen to the voice within and decide to leave Egypt in the hope of finding a homeland, Pharaohs chase you with their armies, voters take away your rights, college jocks mock you and people call you names like "militant," "radical," "avowed" and "troublemaker." There is no story in the history of humankind in which people have listened to the voice within without suffering. All growth requires pain. Any time people have demanded that the world make room for their being, society has responded with the likes of Jerry Falwell, Jessie Helms, Cal Thomas and the other Pharaohs with whom we currently deal. Likewise, every time there is a troublemaking move out of captivity into liberation, there have always been and will always be nagging doubts, fears and anxieties among the liberated and among those called to liberation. Surely there were Jews who stayed in Egypt just as there are women who curse feminism and as there are closeted homosexuals who hate the Movement because it threatens their security. For every gay man or lesbian who has left the closet but at times wishes they hadn't, there are black people in history who periodically wished they hadn't left the security of the plantation and Indians who wished the English had not granted their country its independence. Self-determination is an awesome challenge and it is natural to feel doubts and fears. Our generation has been tapped to lead the modern liberation movement while at the same time cope with the horrors of AIDS. Previous generations have been tapped to cope with the horrors of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Witch Trials, the Holocaust and the McCarthy Era. All of them died in the desert rather than serve the Egyptians. All of us will probably die before the others reach the Promised Land, but the movement forward will continue, even if, at times, it is an undirected wandering. Though these are dark and dreary times for many gay men and lesbians who periodically think of the "comforts" of the closet, the Pharaoh and his armies are still not enough to keep the people in captivity. "I came out at the beginning of this year," wrote a 55-year-old stranger to me in a letter to me yesterday, "by telling my wife of 23 years and my two sons (21 and 22) that I am gay. I moved into an apartment. I have a very special friend with whom I hope a lasting relationship will develop. After so many years of living straight and being gay, I have now found a peace which I neither knew was possible nor had any hope of achieving." Welcome to the desert, friend. ________________________________________________________________________ I, and perhaps many of those gays who profess to be Christian, have this feeling that the Christian/Jewish God is our God, even though we seem to see a whole different aspect of Him than the right-wing edge of Christianity. It is often my feeling that that group of Christians who deny others the right to be Christian in their own ways don't really understand what/who this God they worship is, and therefore end up standing in His way. And that is the reason many gays (like me) spend long hours trying to convince Christians that they should not fear us, but should be standing in the trenches beside us working for world where everyone has the right to be themselves and free. -- Richard A. Brower Fortune Systems {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower
larryg@teklds.UUCP (Larry Gardner) (03/29/85)
There seems to be some contradictions in your points Richard. Egypt was slavery, bondage, and God did not bring His people out to be what they would be or "I am what I am".. That was God's name, not ours. Anyone who continues in sin or the flesh, is a slave to such. What did God do when He led them out of Egypt to the promised land? The first thing He did was set down some LAWS and COMMANDMENTS!!! Rules and regulations. Restrictions. Then He killed the ones who disobeyed. If you are going to use the story, use the complete story. The law came to show us our sin. Our wickedness, our bent toward evil. In Galatians you can read (and Romans) about how freedom is not freedome to do as we please, but to be Holy and to do what is the most excellent thing. If I do not die to myself and my sin nature, then I can not live in Jesus Christ. Let me ask you this question. IF Jesus asked you to give up Homosexuality, or at least the practice, would you do it? Is there anything you would not give up or do for Him? I must ask myself this question and if there is, well, let's build a statue and shrine because we will have discovered our god. I do not fear you, but I can not call you brother, for you are not of the same Spirit. If we say that we have no sin, we lie and do not the truth ( I John) I love and care even if I do not agree. karen
brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) (04/01/85)
In article <494@teklds.UUCP> larryg@teklds.UUCP (Karen Clark) writes: >There seems to be some contradictions in your points Richard. >Egypt was slavery, bondage, and God did not bring His people out >to be what they would be or "I am what I am".. That was God's name, >not ours. Anyone who continues in sin or the flesh, is a slave to >such. Not allowing people to live to their full potential, by restricting their choices, is keeping them in slavery and bondage. >What did God do when He led them out of Egypt to the promised land? >The first thing He did was set down some LAWS and COMMANDMENTS!!! >Rules and regulations. Restrictions. Then He killed the ones >who disobeyed. If you are going to use the story, use the complete >story. That is not quite true. He did not allow the "ones who disobeyed" to enter the "promised land", He did not kill them out of hand as some of the more right wing Christians propose to do to gays. The commandments he gave then have no mention of homosexuality (read the 10 commandments again). >The law came to show us our sin. Our wickedness, our bent toward evil. >In Galatians you can read (and Romans) about how freedom is not freedome >to do as we please, but to be Holy and to do what is the most excellent >thing. However the ongoing theme of the Gosples is that the Law is Love and Love is Holy. You have distorted this position. >Let me ask you this question. IF Jesus asked you to give up >Homosexuality, or at least the practice, would you do it? Is there >anything you would not give up or do for Him? As I have stated previously, several times, *I* am *not* a Christian. My understanding of God, although heavily influenced by the Christian Bible, has very little in common with traditional Christianity. I may write an article at some point in the future detailing my religious beliefs, but let it suffice for the moment that my perception of the value of Jesus Christ is His teaching that loving ones neighbors in a positive manner (that is to say, in an active manner) is the only earthly method of showing ones real "love of God". Therefore, I find it unbelievable that He would ask me to give up loving Steven, since this would be a distinct contradiction of his message. >I must ask myself this question and if there is, well, let's build >a statue and shrine because we will have discovered our god. >I do not fear you, but I can not call you brother, for you are not of >the same Spirit. Then you do not understand the "Spirit" as I do either. By stating that I am not your "brother" and that I am not of the "same Spirit" you are being rather judgemental. As I recollect, Jesus taught that all men are "brothers" (all people are children of God), not just Jews (there were no Christians at that time). This seems to indicate that although you call yourself a Christian, you think that Jesus was a liar. Is that the case? >If we say that we have no sin, we lie and do not the truth ( I John) I have not made any statement of the sort that I do not not sin. However, my sins are between me and my God, and have nothing to do with you. Make sure you do not have a log in your eye before you start trying to pick the mote out of mine. -- Richard A. Brower Fortune Systems {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower
larryg@teklds.UUCP (Larry Gardner) (04/06/85)
Richard, I apologize for misunderstanding your position. The Law is NOT love, God is love. The Law condemns us. Jesus did NOT teach that all men are brothers. In a sense we are, but only those who are followers of Jesus are Sons of God and are His brothers. That is the kind of brother I was referring to, but since you are not a christian it is irrelevent. Living to your full potential would be living your life the way God would want wouldn't it? Good grammer huh? Becoming a Christian is giving up our way to follow His, because we realize that His way is the best way. karen