[net.religion] An interesting juxtaposition

scott@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Scott Deerwester) (03/09/85)

I used to use readnews and just switched to rn.  After looking at an
article in the recent debate between Rich Rosen and Laura Creighton
about whether Rich should be posting in net.religion.christian, I hit
the return and saw:

End of newsgroup net.religion.christian.

See Rich?  Even the *computer* is on Laura's side! :-)
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rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (03/11/85)

> I used to use readnews and just switched to rn.  After looking at an
> article in the recent debate between Rich Rosen and Laura Creighton
> about whether Rich should be posting in net.religion.christian, I hit
> the return and saw:
> 
> End of newsgroup net.religion.christian.
> 
> See Rich?  Even the *computer* is on Laura's side! :-)
> -- 
> 	Scott Deerwester

Isn't it amazing how some people, in an effort to convince (themselves and
others) of the correctness of their views, will resort to the most brazenly
teleological arguments of the shoddiest kine in support...
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laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) (03/12/85)

Gee, I thought that that was a joke. If you can't laugh at reality, your
concepts are altogether too serious to be doing a
good job of modelling it, Rich. At least Kend Ardnt laughed
at *some* of Brian...

Laura Creighton
utzoo!laura

scott@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Scott Deerwester) (03/12/85)

>> I used to use readnews and just switched to rn.  After looking at an
>> article in the recent debate between Rich Rosen and Laura Creighton
>> about whether Rich should be posting in net.religion.christian, I hit
>> the return and saw:
>> 
>> End of newsgroup net.religion.christian.
>> 
>> See Rich?  Even the *computer* is on Laura's side! :-)
>>
>
>Isn't it amazing how some people, in an effort to convince (themselves and
>others) of the correctness of their views, will resort to the most brazenly
>teleological arguments of the shoddiest kine in support...
>

It was a JOKE, Rich.  (Sheesh, you try inject a little humor...)
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rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (03/14/85)

> Gee, I thought that that was a joke. If you can't laugh at reality, your
> concepts are altogether too serious to be doing a
> good job of modelling it, Rich. At least Kend Ardnt laughed
> at *some* of Brian...  [LAURA CREIGHTON]

And you didn't think my response was a joke?  If you can't laugh at
reality, your concepts may be altogether immersed in maya.  :-?

Is there a reason we all keep spelling Ken Arndt's name wrong?  (I'm
no exception.)
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laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) (03/15/85)

Of course my concepts are maya, Rich. *That's* the whole idea....

Laura

dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) (04/02/85)

> 
> >> I used to use readnews and just switched to rn.  After looking at an
> >> article in the recent debate between Rich Rosen and Laura Creighton
> >> about whether Rich should be posting in net.religion.christian, I hit
> >> the return and saw:
> >> 
> >> End of newsgroup net.religion.christian.
> >> 
> >> See Rich?  Even the *computer* is on Laura's side! :-)
> >>
> >
> >Isn't it amazing how some people, in an effort to convince (themselves and
> >others) of the correctness of their views, will resort to the most brazenly
> >teleological arguments of the shoddiest kine in support...
> >
> 
> It was a JOKE, Rich.  (Sheesh, you try inject a little humor...)
> 	Scott Deerwester

And here I thought it was only fundamentalists like me who
were literalists!

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rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (04/05/85)

>>>> I used to use readnews and just switched to rn.  After looking at an
>>>> article in the recent debate between Rich Rosen and Laura Creighton
>>>> about whether Rich should be posting in net.religion.christian, I hit
>>>> the return and saw:
>>>> 
>>>> End of newsgroup net.religion.christian.
>>>> 
>>>> See Rich?  Even the *computer* is on Laura's side! :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>Isn't it amazing how some people, in an effort to convince (themselves and
>>>others) of the correctness of their views, will resort to the most brazenly
>>>teleological arguments of the shoddiest kine in support...
>>>
>>
>>It was a JOKE, Rich.  (Sheesh, you try inject a little humor...)
>>	Scott Deerwester

> And here I thought it was only fundamentalists like me who
> were literalists!  [PAUL DUBOIS]

I knew my good friend Paul Dubois would eventually come through and show
what a true Christian he is, by condemning Christian bigotry as being
truly anti-Christian.  I knew that *he* wasn't the type to avoid the
whole issue by dredging up some month-old article that I had already
responded to just for the purpose of poking fun.  Thanks, Paul.  I knew
I could count on you.  (P.S.  And my response WASN'T a joke???  Says something
about your own "literalism"...  Oh, and where *was* that response of yours?)
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				Rich Rosen 	ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr

scott@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Scott Deerwester) (04/05/85)

>>>>> I used to use readnews and just switched to rn.  After looking at an
>>>>> article in the recent debate between Rich Rosen and Laura Creighton
>>>>> about whether Rich should be posting in net.religion.christian, I hit
>>>>> the return and saw:
>>>>> 
>>>>> End of newsgroup net.religion.christian.
>>>>> 
>>>>> See Rich?  Even the *computer* is on Laura's side! :-)
>>>>> [DEERWESTER]
>>>>
>>>>Isn't it amazing how some people, in an effort to convince (themselves and
>>>>others) of the correctness of their views, will resort to the most brazenly
>>>>teleological arguments of the shoddiest kine in support...
>>>> [ROSEN]
>>>
>>>It was a JOKE, Rich.  (Sheesh, you try inject a little humor...)
>>> [DEERWESTER]
>>
>> And here I thought it was only fundamentalists like me who
>> were literalists!  [PAUL DUBOIS]
>
>I knew my good friend Paul Dubois would eventually come through and show
>what a true Christian he is, by condemning Christian bigotry as being
>truly anti-Christian.  I knew that *he* wasn't the type to avoid the
>whole issue by dredging up some month-old article that I had already
>responded to just for the purpose of poking fun.  Thanks, Paul.  I knew
>I could count on you.  (P.S.  And my response WASN'T a joke???  Says something
>about your own "literalism"...  Oh, and where *was* that response of yours?)
> [ROSEN]

Now I'M even confused!  WHAT Christian bigotry are you talking
about????  It seems that you're upset about something, but for the
life of me, I can't figure out what.

Summary of this conversation:

>>>> Feeble attempt at humor by me at Rich's expense.
>>> Flame by Rich in response, meant to be taken as humor, I think.
>> Response by me, not knowing that Rich's flame was in jest.
> Humorous reponse by Paul, playing on the word "literal".
Flame by Rich in response..

Lighten up a little, huh Rich?
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rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (04/08/85)

>>I knew my good friend Paul Dubois would eventually come through and show
>>what a true Christian he is, by condemning Christian bigotry as being
>>truly anti-Christian.  I knew that *he* wasn't the type to avoid the
>>whole issue by dredging up some month-old article that I had already
>>responded to just for the purpose of poking fun.  Thanks, Paul.  I knew
>>I could count on you.  (P.S.  And my response WASN'T a joke???  Says something
>>about your own "literalism"...  Oh, and where *was* that response of yours?)
>> [ROSEN]

> Now I'M even confused!  WHAT Christian bigotry are you talking
> about????  It seems that you're upset about something, but for the
> life of me, I can't figure out what.  [DEERWESTER]

The fact that you have to ask "what Christian bigotry" after the discourse
in this newsgroup over the last few weeks speaks for itself.

> Lighten up a little, huh Rich?

Gee, I'm sorry I don't see the Christian right as being as funny as you seem
to.  Ha ha ha.
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dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) (04/09/85)

> >>>> I used to use readnews and just switched to rn.  After looking at an
> >>>> article in the recent debate between Rich Rosen and Laura Creighton
> >>>> about whether Rich should be posting in net.religion.christian, I hit
> >>>> the return and saw:
> >>>> 
> >>>> End of newsgroup net.religion.christian.
> >>>> 
> >>>> See Rich?  Even the *computer* is on Laura's side! :-)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Isn't it amazing how some people, in an effort to convince (themselves and
> >>>others) of the correctness of their views, will resort to the most brazenly
> >>>teleological arguments of the shoddiest kine in support...
> >>>
> >>
> >>It was a JOKE, Rich.  (Sheesh, you try inject a little humor...)
> >>	Scott Deerwester
> 
> > And here I thought it was only fundamentalists like me who
> > were literalists!  [PAUL DUBOIS]
> 
> I knew my good friend Paul Dubois would eventually come through and show
> what a true Christian he is, by condemning Christian bigotry as being
> truly anti-Christian.  I knew that *he* wasn't the type to avoid the
> whole issue by dredging up some month-old article that I had already
> responded to just for the purpose of poking fun.  Thanks, Paul.  I knew
> I could count on you.  (P.S.  And my response WASN'T a joke???  Says something
> about your own "literalism"...  Oh, and where *was* that response of yours?)

My response to WHAT?  Christian bigotry articles I never read?  Well,
I haven't said anything about this Mr. Black (I assume that's who you're
referring to), but I will now:  I have nothing to say.

Reason:  If I condemn it, I condemn something I didn't read.  I know
how you'll responsd to that by your treatment of Dave Brown.

	If I don't condemn it, you won't like that either.  Well, I'm
not going to say anything at all, pro or con.

Actually, I will say something.  I gather Black thinks the holocaust
didn't happen.  I think that he is incorrect.

As for dredging up month-old articles, that's because I didn't read this
group for a while, so I started at the beginning of what I didn't read.
So what?

I admit I thought your response was serious.  My apologies.  I thought
so because it sounded exactly like what you write when you're serious.

Oh, well.  You lose some, and you lose some...
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