[net.religion] F.O.A.D!

hua@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA (Ernest Hua) (05/08/85)

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> { From: ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless) }
>
> Bravo Frank Silbermann!  You hit the nail right on the head!
> I am sick of hearing people in this net constantly maligning
> other people's religions.  If we are followers of the name,
> then we should not be knocking other (different) followers of
> the supreme being, merely for being a member of a large group,
> such as Jew, Christian, Hindu, etc.

So, people belonging to SMALL groups are okay to be maligned ...
AND, of course, others who follow more than one supreme being
are just asking for it ... right?!

> Personally, I fail to
> see that great a difference between Jews who lump all Christians
> into the category of unholy evils and the Nazis who lumped all
> Jews into the category of vermin.  Sometimes I wonder what
> people like Rosen would do if they were in the majority and
> they alone had the guns.

Except that the religious people seem to have the guns.  The
president of the United States is the commander in chief of the
armed forces, is he not?  Did you know that he actually listens
to people like Falwell and Robertson, and deeply trusts their
Biblical "prophesies"?

I can see him now ... his finger is on the button ... he thinks
to himself,"Now if I push this button, God meant it to be so.
If not, he would stop me from destroying his Creation.  He will
jam the signals or disable the missiles or strike me with lightening
or something.  The good Rev. Falwell and Rev. Robertson has been
predicting the impending arrival of The Final Battle, and like the
Bible says, it's going to be between the great forces of Good and
the great forces of Evil.  Now we know that the United States is
Christian, and therefore, good.  It's quite obvious that the Soviets
are Evil.  Oh ... why not ..."  click.

> If any follower of any religion wants to change the followers
> of other religions, let him first live his own religion.  Only
> when he has mastered himself and follows the commandments he
> will preach should he speak out.

How poetic!  "mastered himself"?  Gee ... that's almost kinky!
(like "sort of pregnant".)  "the commandments"?  the question
is, chump, "WHOSE COMMANDMENTS"?

> I'm not particularly a lover of Farwell, but from what I have
> seen he hasn't done Israel any harm, and may have even made
> things better.

When you take a look at both Falwell's marvelous prophesies,
"confirmed" by others, as well as by the Bible, it is quite
obvious that he has a good (the Biblical "good", that is)
reason to be nice to Isreal, especially in the areas of arms
support.

> Rosen was low and unfair lumping Farwell with
> the Identity Christian movement.  It makes no difference if
> Black is merely the alias of some bigot in DEC.  Wrong is wrong.

OH!  PEACE!  LOVE!  FREEDOM!  JUSTICE!  EQUALITY!  TOLERANCE!
Of course you are wrong, but WE will tolerate it ... WE are
Christian ( <- replace with your favorite flavor of religion)
and we know the ultimate truth ...

> And while we're on the subject of wrong, Rosen should know better
> than to try to equate homosexuality and freedom of religion.

"wrong"?  According to whom?

>   1)  Homosexuality isn't a religion, it's a sexual preference
>   some people choose to live.

Gee thanks for the info.  I've always thought it was a religion.
(sarcasm to the max.)

>   2)  If Rosen is preaching Judiasm, he should know the basics of 
>   what the Torah forbids.  Homosexuality is a capitol offense.  See
>   Leviticus, the 20th chapter and 13th verse.  The Holy one who
>   revealed those words to Moses 3500 years ago hasn't come down
>   with any revision.  Wrong is STILL wrong!

Listen dum dum ... in case you haven't noticed ... you have just
made yourself a royal hypocrite with whip cream and a cherry on top.

Of course!  Homosexuality is a personal preference!  But it's wrong!
Heterosexuality is the way of the Lord.  It say so in the Bible!

Perhaps YOU, my good fellow, would like to explain how you could
set up such a double standard without using your Scriptures?  It
IS religious, isn't it, fool.

> 				Dave van De Kerk
> 
> P.S.
>
> While you have your scriptures out, try Leviticus 19:18 on for size.
> Perhaps Rosen should review Deuteronomy 6:4-5 as well.  Perhaps we
> all should.

May be you WANT us to ... I have read parts of Bible on numerous
occasions.  However, I don't trust it to tell me what to do with
my life.  Would you trust a thousand-year-old book of fairy tales?

YOU ARE A JERK, DAVE ... A COMPLETE KNEE BITER!
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Live long and prosper, but don't evolve;
you will get some people very upset.

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