merrill@raja.DEC (Rick - Font Mgr. for Hardcopy Engineering) (05/30/85)
>... >has to give. For me, Science must give. >... Both science and theology would be out of business if they had ALL the answers - its more important to keep searching! >... >Well, here I disagree. I don't believe the Bible upholds the concept >of "God created the basic building blocks, and then they all began >evolving into what we have today, including man". Nope - can't buy >that, 'cause the Bible explicitly states that God made each living >thing after its own kind. Also, scientific study has shown that much BUT, just HOW did God DO it? Clearly we don't know ALL of WHAT God did/does, much less HOW He did/does it. My view is that science is man's way of finding out How God Works. >of what was thought of as evolution turned out to be the result of >passive genes that were stimulated by a different environment - hence, <the adaptability was built into the genes to occur - the result is that >the living being was still the same species, just showing its pre- >programmed adaptability. I LIKE that idea! But can I not still ask, "how did God put those genes in there?" > >Finally, it was good (and surprising!) to hear from a believer on the >net! You're the first one I've encountered. > >Bill Gates There are plenty of believers. Rick Merrill ('course they don't all believe like me:-))
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey) (05/31/85)
> >Well, here I disagree. I don't believe the Bible upholds the concept > >of "God created the basic building blocks, and then they all began > >evolving into what we have today, including man". Nope - can't buy > >that, 'cause the Bible explicitly states that God made each living > >thing after its own kind. Also, scientific study has shown that much > > BUT, just HOW did God DO it? Clearly we don't know ALL of WHAT > God did/does, much less HOW He did/does it. My view is that > science is man's way of finding out How God Works. > > >of what was thought of as evolution turned out to be the result of > >passive genes that were stimulated by a different environment - hence, > <the adaptability was built into the genes to occur - the result is that > >the living being was still the same species, just showing its pre- > >programmed adaptability. > > I LIKE that idea! But can I not still ask, "how did God put > those genes in there?" Note how "believers" of necessity must blithely skip over questions like "DID god put those genes in there?" and "IS there a god who put those genese in there?" -- "Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) (06/03/85)
> >... > >Well, here I disagree. I don't believe the Bible upholds the concept > >of "God created the basic building blocks, and then they all began > >evolving into what we have today, including man". Nope - can't buy > >that, 'cause the Bible explicitly states that God made each living > >thing after its own kind. Also, scientific study has shown that much > > BUT, just HOW did God DO it? Clearly we don't know ALL of WHAT > God did/does, much less HOW He did/does it. My view is that > science is man's way of finding out How God Works. > This idea is already espoused by Maimonides ( 13th century Jewish philosopher ). He said the only way to find out how G-D works is through science. Eliyahu Teitz.
arig@cvl.UUCP (Ari Gross) (06/04/85)
> > >... > > >Well, here I disagree. I don't believe the Bible upholds the concept > > >of "God created the basic building blocks, and then they all began > > >evolving into what we have today, including man". Nope - can't buy > > >that, 'cause the Bible explicitly states that God made each living > > >thing after its own kind. Also, scientific study has shown that much > > > > BUT, just HOW did God DO it? Clearly we don't know ALL of WHAT > > God did/does, much less HOW He did/does it. My view is that > > science is man's way of finding out How God Works. > > > > This idea is already espoused by Maimonides ( 13th century Jewish > philosopher ). He said the only way to find out how G-D works is through > science. > > Eliyahu Teitz. What about finding out how G-D works by looking at the history of mankind ? Isn't looking at how G-D has controlled the destinies of the various nations of the world also a legitimate way of seeing how He runs the world? In fact this is an accepted interpretation of G-D's reply to Moses "only my back shall be seen" when Moses asks of G-D "let me see your glory ". Ari Gross