[net.religion] Reply to Chuck Hedrick - NT Mythology / Post-modern Theological Tasks

gary@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (gary w buchholz) (07/10/85)

>In one message you presented us with a vision, not unlike that in
>Ezekiel, where the shekinah departed from the Temple and ended up
>resting with the SBL (who, you assure us, are the true inheritors of
>the scholarly traditions of the Church).  Let me reassure you that
>there are plenty of us who still combine scholarship and faith.  Our
>willingness to allow scholarship to proceed according to its own
>canons does not mean that we have given up our faith.


It is a very interesting question to me as to who are the rightful
hiers to Christianity.  It is also a very interestesting question to me
as to what constitutes faithful continuity.

Consider this statement by Carl Braaten (Professor of Systematic
Theology at Lutheran School of Theology) in the introduction to his book
Principles of Lutheran Theology

  "This book deals with the specifically confessional criteria of
   Christian Theology operative in the Lutheran tradition.  The setting
   of this kind of reflection is properly the church and the seminary,
   not the secular university and a department of religious studies in 
   general.  The decision whether this fact of location diminishes or 
   augments its appeal as a piece of theology will depend on the
   expectations of the readers.  One thing is clear: for good or bad
   this confessional mode of reflection is done today only in the 
   context of the church and its theological schools.  The university
   has opted for the scientific study of religious phenomena, 
   surrendering the claim to truth in the normative sense...."

Surrendering the claim to truth in the normative sense ????

Contrast this with an introduction written by Thomas J.J. Altizer to
Deconstructing Theology written by Mark Taylor and published by
Scholars Press in the AAR Studies in Religion series.

  "Thus the project of Deconstructing Theology is not one of actual or 
   literal deconstruction, for that has long since occurred, but rather
   one of seeking the renewal or rebirth of theology by way of a passage 
   through the end or death of the primal ground of the Western
   theoretical and theological tradition.  This is just the point at
   which theological thinking is now being reborn, even if reborn in
   a non-theological form, which is to say a form  of thinking that
   bears no manifest sign of the presence of theology.....
   ... We have long since learned that there is no hope of a modern 
   Church theology... and the time has arrived for a renewed modern 
   Protestant or post-ecclesiastical theology, a theology fully situated 
   in the world or worlds of modernity..... wherein theology is free of 
   the Church, and thereby free of the very power and ground which 
   theological thinking itself negated in realizing its modern epiphany.
   ...it is no longer possible to return... decisively makes manifest
   the impossibility of returning to the Bible or to a 'biblical'
   revelation.

Altizer cites Taylor as "... the first theologian free of the scars or
perhaps even the memory of Church theology"

In answer to the question as to who are the inheritors of the authentic
Christian tradition my reply would be that we all are.  The tradition
has always been multiform and the history of theology (I think) is most
adequately seen as continuous transformation.

How is the canon of theological texts formed - it is the innovators in
theology that make it into the canon and not the "orthodox".  Todays
orthodoxy is merely the heresy of past generations.  Is that not how
the Lutheran tradition out of which Braaten speaks came to be ?  Has
not Braaten "surrendered the claim to truth in the normative sense..."
in the context of pre-reformation Catholicism ?

Read 'appearance' as 'truth in the normative sense' in this quote from
Hegel and one might find a paradigm for the construal of the history of
Christian theology.

  "Appearance is the process of arising into being and the passing away
   again, a process that itself does not arise and and does not pass 
   away, but is in itself, and constitutes reality and the life-movement
   of truth.  The truth is thus the Bacchanalian revel, where not one
   member is sober; and because every member no sooner becomes detached
   than it eo ipso collapses straightway, the revel is just as much a
   state of transparent unbroken calm."
                                               -Hegel

Obviously Hegels meta-history does not inform Braatens theology as he
is unable to exchange continuity of substance with continuity of
process.  One might ask Braaten what continuity the Lutheran tradition
has with the preceding (Christian) tradition that labeled Luther a
heretic.  One might ask Braaten what continuity the school at which he
teaches (LSTC) has with Luther as it would deny many of the exegetical
principles that make Luthers "insight" possible.

Interpreting the history of the Christian theological tradition one
might find that this "continuity of substance" and "truth in the
normative sense" are illusionary concepts marshaled out in the service
of the latest theological innovation by an author seeking for his work
the sanction of some institutional orthodoxy.  Let me say that the calm
in which such an author rests is merely the eye of the hurricane of
theological change.  The eye moves also.

It may be better to "reap the whirlwind" than deny it or keep safely
away from its reach.  Such persons are people like Taylor, Altizer,
Derrida, the Yale school of Deconstruction and its theological
counterpart.  JAAR and JBL may be the organ of such 'harvesters' of the
theological tradition.

As for your figure of the shekinah departing the Temple and resting
with SBL it may be better to say that as far as Taylor and Altizer are
concerned both shekinah and temple have been caught in the path of
de(con)struction and  "taken up" to be reconstituted and reborn in new
form as part of the epiphany of modern theology.

Even if that theology is "free from the Church" , unable to "return to
the Bible or a biblical revelation" and "non-theological" in the
traditional sense, still it is Christian and in continuity with the
tradition even when it negates Christianity and the traditional God.
It is in continuity with the tradition because only by the tradition
was the negation of the tradition possible.  Protestantism would not
have been possible if Luther did not deny the authority of the
tradition that preceeded him.

Chuck uses Augustines famous phrase "Faith seeking understanding".  To
me, faith will always burden the understanding by an ontological
element that Christian faith will never comprehend.  Ontology ought to
be in the service of the understanding and not the other way 'round.
Was it not the cognition of Paul that alchemized by exegesis that
Christian worldview in which Christians now emplot themselves and
thereby realize their faith ?  Faith may give rise to a more adequate
understanding but that better understanding ought to have a reciprocal
effect and transform the faith.  Is this not the story of the
conversion of Saul the Pharisee to Paul the Christian.  Paul is
rightfuly the first theologian of the Christian era.

A faith that "never lets go" and puts understanding always within its
service will never be relevant to the modern situation.  The only way
such a faith can be relevant is if it always retains the situation in
which it was born.  Such examples would be those "mirage worlds" of the
Evangelicals who consider themselves "just passing through".  The
"mirage world" is the now absent 1st century cosmology that makes their
faith relevant - it can be relevant in no other.


>I would be interested to know the reason you think there is no
>difference between the accounts in the Bible and various mythologies.
>You have made a number of statements that take this as a given, but
>have not shown supporting evidence.  I can imagine two very different
>ways of coming to this conclusion (both of which I think are wrong,
>but for different reasons).  One is that you believe that the Bible
>was not intended as history, and the other is that it was intended as
>history, but has so much legendary material in it that in practice we
>will never be able to separate the truth from the fiction.

Lets ask the right questions.  Does the NT presuppose the interpretive
categories common to 1st century Hellenism and/or Hellenistic Judaism ?
How is Reality understood by human beings ?  Is it immediate or
mediated ?  What is the mediation ?  How is the reality thus perceived
affected by the system of symbols that informs the interpretation and
provides the idiom for thought ?  What is prior, experience or
interpretation - or are they simultaneous ?  Are realities detachable -
what is it that makes the "world" Hindu to Hinduism, Christian to
Christianity and Islamic to Moslems ?  Is Reality as such really Hindu
or Christian or Islamic.  Or does it depend on which set of symbols
construe the world ?  Can new worlds be 'created' or 'alchemized' by
deforming systems of symbols that define reality ?

The Bible can never be false.  The genre of the text does not admit to
any question that could have this as an answer.  The text does not
participate in the true/false dichotomy.  One best understands the text
as ontology and ontological/existential statements can never be
"false".

It is useful to bifurcate Reality at this point.  There is the world of
things(objects) and there is the world of human beings.  The problem
lies in the fact that the liveable world(s) of human beings find
expression and articulation in the language of objects (Gods, demons,
spirits, heavens, hells, redeemers, saviours, angels).

What is the referential order of religious language ?  Is it "empirical
reality" or is the reference of religious language religious language
and the ontological/existential human being who uses it ?  If it is the
former then why are religions so often called 'non-empirical belief
systems' ?  Are they thereby disqualified as 'science' ?  When Peter
responds to Jesus "You are the Christ" is Peter telling us something
about himself or is he telling us about the world that science would
want to investigate ?  The problem is self-created when one confuses
metaphysics and ontology.

To assert the authority of the NT is to admit to ones emplotment in the
Christian salvation history.  This history is the only history on which
the Christian Bible is an authority.  It is an authority on this only
because, for believers, the Bible is reality defining.  How can the
Bible not be true when it carries with itself as supplement a "world"
that contains the criteria of its own truth ?  "Truth is relative to
the perspective from which it is apprehended and is co-relative with
implicated truths whose reciprocity it presupposes" - Taylor

All defenses of the Bible as inerrant or "true" or "the way things are"
are really grounded in a prior ontological commitment.  "Faith seeking
understanding".  How any times is it the case that one proceeds on an
exhaustive historical analysis and then concludes the Bible to be
'true' or 'inerrant'.  How many times is it the case that just the
opposite procedure is followed.  That is, faith first asserts it to be
inerrant or true and then adjusts the exegesis to fit the expectation.
The former task is, in principle, impossible.  The latter can be
accomplished by any TV Evangelical with a good imagination.

To answer your question more directly, what is crucial is not that the
biblical texts are *different* than other mythologies but that they are
mythological and rendered as such not by citing them in themselves but
rather citing them as they participate in the 1st century cosmology and
citing this 1st century consciousness as it participates in this history
of Western thought.

Locating this 1st century cosmology (interpretive categories) within
the history of theology is not unlike locating figures such as Newton
in the history of the physical sciences.  We acknowledge their
contribution, and know that without their contribution what we enjoy
now within the discipline would not be possible.  But, on the other
hand, we do not appeal to Newton in this day and age to solve problems
of high energy particle physics.  So too with theology and with
intellectual history in general - problems and solutions in the past
can now serve as paradigms or models for the solution of contemporary
problems but these solutions of the past can never be taken over "as
is" and without modification as the situation which the solution was an
answer can never be present again. 

At this point one may remark that Christianity is a solution to that
set of problems that it comports with itself so that it may be a
solution.  History of Religions calls this the "Salvation Syndrome".
Christianity convinces you that you are sinful and then offers you the
solution to its own self-generated problem.  It makes present the
situation to which it is the answer.  Poison and antidote in symbiotic
relation.  (To see how this works see those postings in these
newsgroups on the "biblical view of Man" written by "believers")

There are some that do not realize that theology has a history and for
those people it would be rather difficult to locate the NT in the
context that I suggested above.  It is not something that you learn as
one learns facts but it is something that one "sees" by reading texts
from this history of theology.  If one appropriates this "knowledge" in
any other way then it is not your possession.

It is not possible to assign "divinity" to any text without also
"baptizing" the human thought world and interpretive categories that
saw the genesis of the texts.  Such assertions of "divinity" will not
be tolerated by such persons as Taylor and the tradition out of which
he speaks therefore, the NT texts take their rightful place among all
such other texts of the 1st century and this set of texts take their
rightful place in the history of Western thought.  The question of any
"authority" is unaskable and does not arise.

The only authority that the biblical texts have is the authority
believers grant it to define a world of meaning-full human habitation.
And the condition for this possibility is usually some ontological
failure suffered on the part of the would be believer.  This is the
situation to which the Bible is an answer.  If this is not your
question then the Bible has no answers.

It is unfortunate that the ontological answer is effected through a
sacrifice of the intellect.  The recognition of this is the impetus for
much theological work.  As Altizer says, the task is to situate
theology in the world or worlds of modernity.  And this necessarily
requires the denial of the mythological world of the NT and perhaps,
most of if not all Church theology.  The theological task is to count
this all as gain and not loss.

  "Leopards break into the temple and drink the sacrificial chalices
   dry; this occurs repeatedly, again and again: finally it can be 
   reckoned on beforehand and becomes part of the ceremony."

"The leopards become part of the ritual... holy and profane intermingle;
 there is something sacred about writing, commentary, and texts, yet
 these notions are displaced into profane fields of literature,
 philosophy and psychoanalysis.  At the same time, under the guise of 
 revisionary interpretation, the Temple and Scripture are profaned. The
 lines become crossed: who knows now which is the holy, and which the 
 profane: which the leopards and which the priests ?"


                                          -The Critic as Kabbalist in 
                                           Slayers of Moses by 
                                              Susan Handelman

  Gary