[net.religion] Creation-science vs. Christianity

carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) (08/08/85)

Most of the debates about creation/evolution focus on the
incompatibility between "creation-science" and real science.
However, a book I came across recently, *Is God a Creationist?  The
Religious Case Against Creation-Science*, ed. R. M. Frye, makes the
case that 20th-century creationists' ignorance of their own religious
and theological tradition is at least as profound as their ignorance
of science.  Having had some exposure to Christian theology in the
past, I tend to agree.  The book is a collection of articles by
various theologians and scholars (and a Pope), and looks very good so
far.  All of the contributors accept the Christian doctrine of
creation, BTW.

Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes

bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) (08/11/85)

> Most of the debates about creation/evolution focus on the
> incompatibility between "creation-science" and real science.
> However, a book I came across recently, *Is God a Creationist?  The
> Religious Case Against Creation-Science*, ed. R. M. Frye, makes the
> case that 20th-century creationists' ignorance of their own religious
> and theological tradition is at least as profound as their ignorance
> of science. 

I agree.  Another recent book of interest in this context is *The Meaning
of Creation: Genesis and Modern Science*, by Conrad Hyers (John Knox
Press, Atlanta, 1984).  Hyers is a Professor of Religion at Gustavus
Adolphus College.  I found it a very provocative book.

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dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Risky Rat) (08/12/85)

> [Richard Carnes]
> Most of the debates about creation/evolution focus on the
> incompatibility between "creation-science" and real science.
> However, a book I came across recently, *Is God a Creationist?  The
> Religious Case Against Creation-Science*, ed. R. M. Frye, makes the
> case that 20th-century creationists' ignorance of their own religious
> and theological tradition is at least as profound as their ignorance
> of science.  Having had some exposure to Christian theology in the
> past, I tend to agree.  The book is a collection of articles by
> various theologians and scholars (and a Pope), and looks very good so
> far.  All of the contributors accept the Christian doctrine of
> creation, BTW.

"The" Christian doctrine of creation?  Evolutionists tell us too often
that the fundamentalists endorse only one very narrow view of Genesis
and that most denonimations (or schools of thought, or [insert your
own concept used for dividing Christians into categories for
classificatory purposes]) have long ago made their peace with Darwin
(as the phrase usually goes).  So what is "the" doctrine?

Kehoe makes somewhat the same point (Godfrey, _Scientists Confront
Creationism_).  So does Aulie (_American Biology Teacher_, Apr and May
1972, v34).  There's also an article in Zetterberg's book, and one in
Montagu's book, both of which make the same point.
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