[net.philosophy] Souls?

hutch (02/11/83)

Ok, Randal.  I'll bite.

The reason why one wants to ask the question about souls is because
one wishes, partly, to know if one will come to an end.  I agree that
eternity starts now (I may even have said so to you at some point)
but the question of "is there a soul" is still valid enough to be
worth considering.

The minimum we can be sure of is that as long as we are remembered and
as long as our past and present actions endure, we will continue to
have had meaning.

But we may find it interesting to know whether or not the complex of
awarenesses, beliefs, and personality traits that we tend to think of
as "self" has any objective existance.  After all, we have only the
subjective awareness of our senses that we are even here at all.

Actually, I think we can assume we exist, since I know that the world
is continually more complex and surprising than I am personally able
to envision all by myself.  The details are too consistent, and I am too
often wrong about some part of them, for me to think that it is all just
an hallucination.  So, by self-examination via physical senses, I can
reasonably assume that I have a body, which exists in a universe, and 
that I am not the only body in that universe.

I cannot assume a soul based on that information granted by my
physical senses.  The problem is, can I discover other senses or
modes of self-perception which will allow me to discover whether
the soul is more than an hypothesis?

I can tell indirectly by the use pf some of these physical senses that
the other bodies in the universe can be roughly classed into those
that are "alive" and those that are not.  The "alive" ones show a
high degree of complexity, tending to behave in ways that are not
simple to predict.  The "unalive" ones tend to be fairly inert or
do not act in anything other than simply mechanical fashion.

I will explore this concept later, after I get flamed at for what
I have said already.

Steve Hutchison

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