[net.philosophy] Altruism

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (07/11/83)

     From: Alan Wexlblat
     ...
     Another form of the GR says "Do unto others as they would
     like to be done unto."  Does this say that we must whip the
     masochist who begs for the favor?  Should we go out and
     purchase drugs for the addict?  Again, the GR falls apart.

I see nothing wrong with whipping the masochist.  Some people watch TV
and some people like to be whipped....  About the addict: I'm sure
that the addict has conflicting desires.  He wants the drugs, but he
also wants to stay alive and healthy.  The good thing to do would
probably be to help him satisfy his desire to stay alive and healthy
rather than his desire to do drugs, because his desire to live and be
healthy seems more important, even if it seems  less urgent to him at
the moment.

     ...
     Imagine, if you will, a group of perfect altruists: for each
     of them, the best that they can do is satisfying the desires
     of another of them.  BUT, all of them are in the same
     position; all desire to fulfill the desires of another.  But
     none of them have any desires of their own!  This leads us
     to the conclusion (which I beleive is inevitable) that there
     can be no moral goods if there are no non-moral goods before
     them.

I see no problem here.  It's obvious that the world is already in
pretty good shape.  There must not be any hunger, thirst, or exposure,
or just by the physical nature of man, there would be desires to be
satisfied.  There just is no good to be done here.  The state of the
world in this situation must have the highest goodness rating possible
(for a world in which everyone is stupid and has no imagination -- if
they weren't stupid or had some imagination, they'd all think of
something they want to do).
-- 
                                Doug Alan
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