dr_who@umcp-cs.UUCP (08/14/83)
Sorry, I got cut off during my last message. Consider this a continuation of "utilitarianism clarified". Back to Tom Craver: You justify using summation by stating "there are no inherent and ethically significant differences between an agent himself and others". I am assuming that you mean *the sum of all others* (as would be implied by your use of summation good as the basis of moral action). There *are* significant differences, from each individual's point of view. If it is not already clear from what I said in "utilitarianism clarified" -- I meant between the agent and any (or, each) other person. Why are the differences you point to ethically significant ones? I.e., why do those differences justify an individual as treating his own welfare as more important (on a fundamental level) that that of another? Saying "every person's life is their own to live" seems to be a different way of saying "each person's welfare is her own welfare" -- which of course justifies nothing. ...you are now claiming that the claim for utilitarianism being based on living all lives is *my* argument. *You* were the one to supply that. NO. There was NO claim that utilitarianism is *BASED* on living all lives. That was no *argument*, it was an attempt to explain to you what actions a utilitarian would perform. "Claim", "based", "argument" -- these are all your *mis*interpretations. The sentence about "living all lives" was designed to help *you* (who understand selfish behavior best) to predict the actions of a utilitarian. Sorry that that was unclear. Why would you want to *predict* the actions of a utilitarian? So that you can argue with me by saying "Look, a utilitarian would do so-and-so, and so-and-so is ridiculous," and not have me correct you about what a utilitarian would do. --Paul Torek, U of MD College Park