[net.philosophy] rights as inventions

trc@houti.UUCP (T.CRAVER) (08/23/83)

Response to ariel!norm

Norm, I think that part of the problem is that I have used an meat axe
where a scalpel is more appropriate - which I can only justify in
the context of the large difference in views between myself and those
attacking my views on rights.  

I am not, however, entirely convinced that rights are just a good
invention, that fit the needs of humans.  I rather regard them
in somewhat the same sense as a principle of physics.  It is more
appropriate to say that Newton *discovered* the laws of gravity, rather 
than invented them.  I think that at least part of the difference lies 
in the question of whether there can be an alternative system (to rights, 
or to the laws of gravity) that fits reality.  That is, are human rights 
the *only* proper principle for describing how humans should treat other 
humans, or are there equally valid others?  I see no other proper way for 
humans to act with respect to one another.

If rights are necessary for proper interaction among humans, and if
the necessity of those rights arises from the nature of humans and
of their relationships to each other and reality, why is it not valid
to claim that that nature and those relationships are the source of the 
validity of human rights as principles for governing actions?

Other than this distinction, I agree with you - and in particular, I 
note that I left implicit the idea that rights are needed because humans 
interact - that for a person totally isolated, there is no question of human
rights.  And I do agree that human rights had to be thought of - just as 
every other concept had to be originated at some point.

	Tom Craver
	houti!trc