[net.philosophy] below the belt -- Laura's part C

flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (11/12/83)

Mockery is not an appropriate response, Laura.  If you want to do that,
please move it to net.flame.  I'm pretty flaming myself right now, so here
goes, you deserve it.

Laura, instead of donning your robes and sandals and going to see the
master, how about reporting to the hospital for a brain implantation.  And
then you can go back and read what I said in my previous articles, with
special attention to what I *didn't say*.

Like, that I know any more than you do about right and wrong.  I do, but I
haven't said so until now.  (And that's not to exagerrate my own knowledge
-- knowing more than you do about anything obviously takes little
accomplishment.)  Please to note that although I claimed that my views are
clearly superior to "some viewpoint that I find paticularly obnoxious"
[e.g., that of the 19th century Americans who argued for slavery], I did not
make a similar claim for all views in general.

Like, that there is an interpersonal truth of the matter in ethics which I
personally can perceive.  I do believe that there is such an interpersonal
truth of the matter, but I haven't stated that belief (until now) in my
articles on this subject.  Alas, if only I didn't believe that, I could
impose my beliefs with complete impunity.  As it is, I have to worry
sometimes that I could be mistaken.  Nor have I claimed to be an expert in
ethics.  HOWEVER:  I *do* have my opinion, and I *will* sometimes impose it.
And while I don't know the complete truth about what's right, I *do* know
that certain views are wrong.  In the same manner, one might not know the
exact answer to some mathematics problem, but still be able to say for sure
that some answers are incorrect.

As for your facetious request for a methodology, I'll give you the short
answer:  reason and experience.   Experiences can establish or refute
evaluations of them.  Other things can be evaluated by their consequences
for experience.  And I think you already know the rest of my ethical
viewpoint, although you seem to have forgotten when you asked me all the
questions in the other two parts of your nonsense ...

				Pissed off at the intentional caricature 
					of my position,
				--Paul Torek, U of MD, College Park
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