[net.philosophy] Evidence of Creation

lew@ihuxr.UUCP (Lew Mammel, Jr.) (02/13/84)

There has been some discussion about "compact intervention" and whether
it's meaningful to talk of scientific evidence for such events. I think
it is quite meaningful, in principle, but it is difficult to talk
about because such evidence is conspicuous by its absence.

Suppose for example, that the earth were discovered to have a layer
of dirt and rock some hundreds of feet thick, but that under that it
was a perfect solid crystal of diamond. This would be prima facie
evidence of a special creation. Of course, people actually believed that
the moon was such an object before its surface had been viewed telescopically.

Farmer's Riverworld also comes to mind. This planet's surface is entirely
taken up with a LONG winding river, whose entire length is guarded on
both sides by sheer cliffs fronting high mountains. The residents of
Riverworld have no doubt whatsoever that the world is an artifice.

Other such arbitrary configurations can be dreamed up. What if the
northern hemisphere were land and the southern hemisphere were sea,
with a beach along the equator? Or what if all the continents were
square or circular? This sort of thing is not far from medieval cosmologies
that were centered on the Mediterranean (note the name!) with the 
habitable world encircled by a cosmic ocean, which played a similar
psychological role for them that space does for us. (Heaven was more
familiar.)

Actually, all this is very reminiscent of Paley's "watch in the wilderness"
argument, or "argument from design".  The point being that if one were
to find a watch in the wilderness, one would presume that it was an
artifice.  Similarly, the world itself must be an artifice since it
shows purposeful design.

It occurs to me (I'm sure I'm not the first!) that this argument contains
its own refutation in the distinction between the watch and the wilderness.
Of course one would presume that the watch is an artifice, but precisely
because it is so much DIFFERENT than all the trees, and grass, and bugs
and so on that one accepts as part of nature. I would summarize this
difference by noting that the watch doesn't grow or reproduce.

Anyway, that's beside the logical point, which is that Paley is asking
us to draw the same conclusion about nature that we drew about the
watch, when we drew that conclusion because the watch stands in such vivid
contradistiction to nature.

Finally, I think Gentry's polonium halos constitute the assertion that
just such a "watch" has been found. That is, there is no way to account
for such a thing naturally.  I think it's fair to say that most scientists
are disinclined to take his claim seriously for precisely this reason.
Conversely, it's incumbent on Gentry to pursue the matter until he gains
his point "in the arena". Naturally, he thinks he has fulfilled what
should be necessary to at least have some one attempt to verify his
measurements.  I really wish someone would, for my part, but his case
isn't regarded by others as nearly strong enough to justify the considerable
effort required.

		Lew Mammel, Jr. ihnp4!ihuxr!lew