felcher@reed.UUCP (William Abernathy) (05/07/85)
Free Will? Who cares? If you're so worried about free will, I'll direct you to the Reef of Solipsism. Could This All Be A Big Practical Joke? Is there a Great Deceiver? Gnaw on that for a while. Descartes couldn't find his ontological ass from a hole in the ground when it came to solipsism. But enough random kvetching. Ever heard of Heidegger? He totally pimps ("flames" I hear is the net. parlance) on religion. Dig on this: "Indeed the call [of conscience] is precisely something which *we ourselves* have niether planned nor prepared for nor voluntarily performed, nor have we ever done so. 'It' calls, against our expectations and even against our will. On the other hand, the call undoubtedly does not come from someone else who is in the world. The call comes *from* me and yet *from beyond me and over me.* "These phenomenal findings are not to be explained away. After all, they they have been taken as a starting-point for explaining the voice of con- science as an alien power by which Dasein is dominated. If the interpretation continues in this direction, one supplies a possesor of the power thus posited, or one takes the power itself as a person who makes himself known - namely God. On the other hand one may try to reject this explanation in which the caller is taken as an alien manifestation of such a power and to explain away the conscience 'biologically' at the same time. Both these explanations pass over the phenomenal findings too hastily. [Get this] Such procedures are facilitated by the unexpressed but ontologically dogmatic guiding thesis that what *is* (in other words, anything so factual as the call) must be *present-at-hand*, and that what does not let itselft be Objectively demonstrated as *present-at-hand*, just *is not* all." Okay, so it's a little out of context, but this dude puts an existentialist bazooka to the drab ontology you guys are bandying about. Immolate me. See if I care. I don't know thing one about computers. I can't even type. luv'n'hugs William Abernathy
schwrtze@csd2.UUCP (Eric Schwartz group) (05/13/85)
Possible answers to the question "Why Z?", where Z is an event. 1) Z is a consequence of Y, where Y is an event. 2) Z is a manifestation of the will of Y, where Y is an agent (e.g. Joe, god...). 3) Because. The bazooka in the base note takes the form of possibility 3, above. Regards, Bill Light