steiny@idsvax.UUCP (Don Steiny) (05/31/85)
*** Are there any other netlanders that are interested in Michael Foucault? In the "Order of Things" he says that our concept of "man" was born in the "scientific revolution" and is right now changing as we leave that epistime and move into a new one. He proposes that the whole way we order the world has changed dramatically in the past and is in the process of changing again. He says that all human sciences are becoming a single science, linguistics. It is an exciting suggestion. If we are in the middle of a change, or at the beginning of a new epistime, we forget the old way or are unable to see it because we are the subjects and not observers. Does anyone understand his examples well enough to point to differences and say, "this belongs to the old epistime and that to the new?" The one thing I can suggest is in linguistics. The basic assumptions of linguistics have changed dramatically since the 20's. Before, there was an assumption that only emperical data could be the object of scientific inquiry. Skinner went so far as to say that language does not exist, that there was no emperical "thing" in the universe that we can point to and say "that there is language." For us to say today that there is a "science" of linguististics, we must mean something different by "science" than the majority of people meant early in this century. Another thread that seems relevant is "mental illness." According to Foucault (and others, notably Thomas Szaz), the idea that "minds" are somehow like bodies and that they can get "sick" and be "cured" by doctors is a recent concept. It is an idea that does not seem to work at all. Today many people do not believe that it is possible to isolate "individual pathologies" and realize that what behavior constitutes "normal behavior" and what behavior is "abnormal behavior" must be determined in the larger social context. Just this might give a before/after description. before - mind is mostly individual after - mind is mostly social Is anyone else out there interested in developing an attempt to understand Foucault? pesnta!idsvax!steiny twg!idsvax!steiny Don Steiny - Computational Linguistics 109 Torrey Pine Terr. Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 (408) 425-0832