[net.philosophy] "Just the facts, please."

brian@digi-g.UUCP (Merlyn Leroy) (05/25/85)

<Everything You Know Is Wrong!>

    Good ol' Ken "white noise" Arndt seems to be having a hard time convincing
people that religious assertions about life/the universe/everything have as
much (or more) validity than scientific assertions.  Perhaps it's because
science (eventually) reaches a consensus on things (like the earth being
round, orbiting the sun instead of vice-versa, etc) while religions don't.

    I suppose you think Galileo was wrong, hey Ken?  I mean, he was contra-
dicting the church's view that the sun went around the earth, and their view
is at least equally valid, right?  Want to bring back the phlogiston theory of
heat while your at it?  Go have your brain re-blocked.

Merlyn Leroy
    The center of the universe is located 3 feet out from my left ear.

mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) (06/09/85)

>/* bill@hpfcms.UUCP (bill) /  8:12 pm  Jun 16, 1985 */

>Don't confuse blind following of an organization (church) with faith in God.
>One is prone to gross errors, because of its human makeup - the other isn't.

Quite right.  Faith in god is prone to errors for a different reason,
namely, that it is faith.

bill@hpfcms.UUCP (06/17/85)

>    Good ol' Ken "white noise" Arndt seems to be having a hard time convincing
>people that religious assertions about life/the universe/everything have as
>much (or more) validity than scientific assertions.  Perhaps it's because
>science (eventually) reaches a consensus on things (like the earth being
>round, orbiting the sun instead of vice-versa, etc) while religions don't.

Perhaps various religious groups appear to be wavering all the time, but the
Bible is firm, and has never been disproven by science.  If a particular
religion doesn't take a stand on things, it's the fault of people, not God.

>    I suppose you think Galileo was wrong, hey Ken?  I mean, he was contra-
>dicting the church's view that the sun went around the earth, and their view
>is at least equally valid, right?  Want to bring back the phlogiston theory of
>heat while your at it?  Go have your brain re-blocked.
>
>Merlyn Leroy

Again, the fault of people, not God.  By the way, the church was not alone
in supporting the "sun around the earth" theory.  That theory had GREAT
backing from the scientific community.

Don't confuse blind following of an organization (church) with faith in God.
One is prone to gross errors, because of its human makeup - the other isn't.

Bill Gates