[net.philosophy] Paranormal crapola

dsi@unccvax.UUCP (Dataspan Inc) (06/18/85)

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From:  David Alpern  <ALPERN%SJRLVM4.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA>

Bill Tanenbaum (ihnp4!ihu1e!tan),

Whether Uri can or can't bend spoons psychically is one thing, but
sudden bursts of knowledge, apparently unexplainable (i.e. the person
involved can't figure out where he would have learned it, etc.) are
common - but as far as I've heard, mostly uncontrolled.  It's possible
much of this has to do with someone remembering a fact but not where
or that he was told it.  But stories have been around for centuries of
women who knew that that day was the one there husband would return from
sea - or that he had just died.  And too many of the people I know,
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     Two fundamental problems here: 1) This kind of research explains
away, rather than explains; 2) a reasonably decent model that will
weather academic criticism well already exists. 

     The tools to grapple with the class of problems you just mentioned
already exist in behavioural psychology. Spoon bending behaviour is one
thing (which I doubt exists) but all the other stuff (precognition,
deja vu, etc) can be effectively explained.

     The fundamental flaw with paranormal psychology research is that
it is often procedurally contaminated.  In the above mentioned cases,
each one can be explained by an "attenuated behaviour" model, where
person A, based on some reinforcers in common (or, for that matter,
disjoint) with person B, have the same behaviour. The first one goes
out and wraps his Corvette 'round a pine tree. The second, behaving
in an attenuated fashion, has a 'precognition' while in an elevator
2000 miles away that A has done so. 

    But what about the cases where a 'psychic' is hired to find the
dead body of some pour soul that has the cops baffled? Again, these
psychics have the (albeit very limited) knack of finding some relevant
reinforcer in the situation and extrapolating behaviourally to the
behavioural end.  This is certainly more reasonable an explaination
than 'tapping in' to some undiscovered pheonomena in the Ether.

    Ditto for extraordinary knowledge from people with no training,
etc. If you are willing to chuck out "knowledge as being representational"
and all that cognitive crap, and assume that humans are behavioural
systems rather than Von Neumann architectures (both of which will
stand up much longer to severe enquiry than will ESP research), most,
if not all, this paranormal crap is reduced to ordinary experience.

    If we were concentrating in behavioural psychology much more than
just a topic for liberal arts majors, these "paranormal" pheonomena
could be much better understood, and lead to far many more people
getting the knack for extrapolated, attenuated behaviours.

    I submit that any experiment which purports to show "thought waves"
or other traditionally profound dreck is a total farce unless and
until all forms of traditional communication and reinforcement are
removed from the subjects. When we see examples of telepathy or 
mind reading in those psychology films showed in 9th grade, they
invariably do not exclude communication by olfactory or musical
understanding, etc.

    Now, radical behaviourism as a science is not perfect, but at
least it is scholarly, and makes a damned good attempt to explain
rather than explain away.


				David Anthony
 				DataSpan, Inc

csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) (07/01/85)

On the subject of paranormal experiments: I picked up a book in the
local occult bookstore called "The Psycic Experiment Book" (the author
and publisher's names escape me). It has twenty chapters covering
subjects from psycokenises to alternate realities (that's a pretty weird
one.) Anyway, each chapter has a discussion of the scientific and
non-scientific aspects of the topic along with historical notes and
statistics. This is followed by a listing of "do it yourself"
experiments. Most of the experiments, if done properly, are pretty
conclusive (whenever possible). It's great fun and provides results.

Example experiment:

Get a jar with a tight lid and fasten a string to the inside. Now screw
the lid back on (must be airtight!) such that the string dangles freely
in the center of the jar. Now try to use your mind to move the string.
If it moves, you've just provided strong evidence of telekenesis. If
not, well, call Uri Geller.
-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
"The Church of Fred has yet to come under attack.
    No one knows about it."
        -Rev. Wang Zeep

mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) (07/01/85)

In article <294@mit-vax.UUCP> csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) writes:
> On the subject of paranormal experiments: I picked up a book in the
> local occult bookstore called "The Psycic Experiment Book" (the author
> and publisher's names escape me).

I believe the author is James Randi, the great psychic-basher and frequent
contributor to Skeptical Enquirer Magazine (highly recommended for those
interested in why pseudosciences are considered pseudosciences.)

> It has twenty chapters covering
> subjects from psycokenises to alternate realities (that's a pretty weird
> one.) Anyway, each chapter has a discussion of the scientific and
> non-scientific aspects of the topic along with historical notes and
> statistics. This is followed by a listing of "do it yourself"
> experiments. Most of the experiments, if done properly, are pretty
> conclusive (whenever possible). 

I think I remember reading that one of the purposes of this book was to
help combat pseudosciences by providing simple tests which leave little
opportunity for fraud.  One frequent trick of pseudosciences is to use the
most arcane, uncontrollable tests possible so that people will be cowed in
the face of "SCIENCE!"  The simpler the test, the fewer opportunities for
cheating (such as blowing, manipulation, etc.)
-- 

Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh