mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) (08/01/85)
As the free will battle rages on, I am reminded of an anecdote from John Krumm's _The Moral Climate_ (unfortunately out of print). He says: The autonomous self-- presupposed in moral exhortation-- is discovered by these new behavioral sciences to be nowhere near nearly so autonomous as had been imagined. The late Clarence Darrow argued from this discovery that punishment of criminal acts was, in most cases, grossly unfair since the criminal was so largely a product of socio- psychological factors. The difficulty of applying the sciences of sociology and psychology is illustrated by the story of a judge who, having heard Mr. Darrow make such a plea, retorted that since the judge and jury also represented socio-psychological conditioning, although of a different sort, they must be expected to mete out drastic punishment to the criminal-- and Mr. Darrow could scarcely object if they did! Obviously, the impact of the sciences of sociology and psychology can be more devastating for morality than even Mr Darrow realized. In light of Rich's dedication to determinism, I find his highly moralistic attacks to be rather amusing, for reasons that should be obvious. Charley Wingate umcp-cs!mangoe "Better get used to those bars, kid."