[net.philosophy] Rich attains Enlightenment

carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) (08/18/85)

Having studied the Talmud in his youth, and concluding that it was
insufficient, Rich decided to seek out a Zen-Master for
Enlightenment.  So he crossed the mountains and a broad river and
came into the presence of the famous Zen-Master Ma-Tsu.  "Who sent
you?" the Master demanded.

"No one sent me," Rich replied.

"You would not have come unless you had been sent by someone.  Who
sent you?" demanded the Master again.

"But I was not sent," said Rich.

"Do not try to deceive me!" cried the Master, growing angry.
"Someone must have commanded you to come!"

"But you are wrong!" cried Rich.  "No one told me to come!  No one
commanded me!  I came of my own free will!"  At this the Master
jumped up and struck Rich across the shoulders with his staff!

At that moment, Rich attained Enlightenment.
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From R. Smullyan, *The Tao Is Silent*:

[God is speaking:]  `Often one uses the statement "I am determined to
do this" synonymously with "I have chosen to do this".  This very
psychological identification should reveal that determinism and
choice are much closer than they might appear.  Of course, you might
well say that the doctrine of free will says that it is *you* who are
doing the determining, whereas the doctrine of determinism appears to
say that your acts are determined by something apparently outside
you.  But the confusion is largely caused by your bifurcation of
reality into the "you" and the "not you".  Really now, just where do
you leave off and the rest of the universe begin?  Or where does the
rest of the universe leave off and you begin?  Once you can see the
so-called "you" and the so-called "nature" as a continuous whole,
then you can never again be bothered by such questions as whether it
is you who are controlling nature or nature who is controlling you.
Thus the muddle of free will versus determinism will vanish.'
 
So, does anyone out there care to argue with God?

Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes