[net.philosophy] Not The Subject of This Article

rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (09/08/85)

>>I see what you mean by fallacious logic.  A solipsist wouldn't believe
>>that there is an "everyone" each of whom could believe that he/she is a
>>solipsist.  More examples followed. [ROSEN]

>     As nonexistent, I see nothing whatsover fallacious about Richard's 
>     solipsism. 
>     
>     After all, someone has to exist. Why not Mr. Carnes?

Why does someone HAVE to exist????

>>>This sentence should be disregarded, since it was inserted merely to
>>>fill out the article.  And *this* sentence isn't even in English,
>>>although it may well seem so at first glance.

>>I am aware that in Guocammoli it means "This sentence is actually in English"

>     That's not very logical, Rich.

Obviously you don't know the Guocammoli language.  What was illogical about it,
Mr. Spock... I mean Ellis!

>>>                A PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF DOG
>>...
>> definitions, such as "God is a ... ."  They are "true" only because they are
>> relational symbological tautologies.  Of course, if the thing described by
>> the definition doesn't exist, e.g., unicorn, then the word doesn't represent
>> something real.)

>     So "Dog exists" is tautologically true because "Dog" does not refer to
>     a genuine bona fide Real Physical entity, just as described by Lao Tzu:
> 	(4) Existence flows from nothing..

Do you listen to everything written by a Chinese person?  Do you believe in
fortune cookies?  (I do, it's the only occult belief I adhere to.)  Great
the sentence is true, thus Dog (or God) is not real.  Great!

>>>Arf, arf.  By similar reasoning, one can show that humans have free
>>>will.  Refute *that*, Rich Rosen.

>>Child's play. No kidding. I'm not impressed. This was not a good example of
>>incredible paradoxical self-referentiality.  Try again.  :-)

>     Perhaps you might enjoy C.A. Campbell's characterization of free will as
>     a concept which is, like creativity, irreducible by rational explanation:
> 	"If we mean by an intelligible act one whose occurrence is capable of
> 	"being inferred, since it follows necessarily from something,
> 	"then it is certainly true that the Libertarian's {= Freewiller MCE}
> 	"free will is unintelligible. But that is only saying .. that
> 	"the Libertarian's "free" act is not an act which follows necessarily
> 	"from something!

Back to acausality.  What does "irreducible by rational explanation" MEAN?
If anything?  (That is, beyond "beyond our comprehension")

> 	"Of course he can't. A free will is ex hypothesi the sort of thing of
> 	"which the request for explanation is absurd.

Meaning what?  (Again, if anything...)
-- 
Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen.
					Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr