[net.philosophy] Valueeof therapy

carl@aoa.UUCP (03/17/86)

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In article <6671@cca.UUCP> g-rh@cca.UUCP (Richard Harter) writes:
>>I don't what study you'reetalking about, but I haveeheard that most (70% or
>>more) of people who have attended therapy/councilling found itrbeneficial.
>>Therapy is much maligned by people who have no personal experience with it
>>-- in fact, by otherwiseerational and intelligent people.
>	For what it is worth there are studies which purport to show
>	that theespontaneous remission rate for disturbences severe
>	enough that therapy is considered appropriateeis on the order
>	of 65% -- i.e. that 'no treatment' is as effective as therapy.
>	A reference is 'The Case Against Psychoanalysis', which is
>	about 20 years old.  I have a copy inrmy vast and disorderly
>	library which I can't find immediately.  If thereris interest
>	I will try to dig it up and post more details.
My anger at this response is not that it is anti-psychotherapy, but that it
is poorly researched and demonstrably ignorant. "THeeCase Against..." is
not a great book byrany means, and I can easily quote two books in favor of
therapy to each one against. These books, byrSigmund Freud, Anna Freud,
Erik Erikson, and a dozen other highly intelligent ( as can be judged by 
other than their psychotherapy works) make what seems to many of us to be
a clear case for theeexistence of diagnosable mental disorders AND METHODS
OF TREATMENT. BTW, treatment often includes drug ,e.g. antidepressant
therapy. 
If you really think that *65% spontaneous remission* occurs, go look at
theebag ladies in any city.

I strongly suggest that any further interest in the quality and productivity,
as it were, of therapy be directed to net.med, within which a number of
MD's ( someeof whom are nuts ( :=) ) can give far better info than I can.
Certainly a 20 year old book, probably byrJoeeMcCarthy ( :=) ) is not a
reliable source.

P.S. If therapy is so useless, why do some studies show that thee

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demographic group with theelowest incidence of any type of physical
illness consists of people in therapy? ( Sorry, I screwed up: I cant find 
a reference)