[net.micro.apple] "vi-like editor": Apple Pie

gnu (02/09/83)

When I had the use of an Apple last year I used Apple Pie from Programma
International extensively.  It was not a bad editor considering the
limitations of its I/O (lousy keyboard and 40x20 screen).

It's a screen editor.  You can edit files up to about 70 chars wide and it
will switch the screen for you between left and right halves.  It can also
support various 80-col cards.  I believe it wins over vi in one important
issue: when you type printing characters, it puts them in your file.

I used it for extensive assembler language editing as well as invoices and
random documents -- it did well on all.

It has a lot of options on how the text gets in and out of the editor --
normal appledos text files, special fast-load format files, from a chunk of
memory, to/from I/O slots, etc.  It's also claimed to interface well to
their text formatter, but I never needed it.  I often moved text in and out
of the Apple by dialing the modem and getting online, running Pie, and using
the "output to slot 2" or "input from slot 2 500 lines or until you see
'foo'" features.  Almost like C pipes, except you need one machine per
process...

I think Programma is in the L.A. area but no longer have an easy way to find
their address.

	John Gilmore, Sun Microsystems

avsdS:avsdT:yawitz (02/16/83)

Programma closed up shop about a year ago.  Apple Pie is now sold
as Pie Writer by Hayden Publishing (for about $150 list).