[net.micro.apple] Mac languages

evans@mhuxt.UUCP (crandall) (03/19/84)

munch munch
Last week I called Apple about the availability of MacPascal and MacBasic
and was told that they will be some time off ("around third quarter"). I also
asked about the rumored C compiler and got two comments - "around 
Summer" and "we can't comment on the release date of a third party until the
product is released." Rumors are that MicroSoft will do the C compiler -
pretty logical as they have Mac experience and a 68000 C compiler for their
Xenix. Does anyone have anything more solid on this?

More things to wonder about -- What is the status of the DS Sony drive for the
Mac? It is now clear that a special version is required and it is also clear
that Sony is selling many more drives than they can produce. Is it worth it
to go with the external SS Mac drive now (it would be essential for any
serious playing around), or to hold out for a DS drive?


				Steve Crandall
				mhuxt!evans

hall@ittral.UUCP (Doug Hall) (03/20/84)

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I don't know when Apple plans to release MacPascal or MacBasic, but I've
seen (and used) both of them in the form of a pre-pre-release(?) version.
Both languages are fast and have excellent user interfaces, assuming what
I saw was representative of the final product. A few rather crude
benchmarks indicated that MacBasic runs 3-5 times faster than the
interpreted BASIC on the IBM-PC. MacPascal seems to be interpreted,
(or perhaps incrementally compiled?) but runs quite fast also.

I think both languages are worth waiting for.


                                Doug Hall
                                ittvax!ittral!hall

dudek@utcsrgv.UUCP (Gregory Dudek) (03/21/84)

123 Skidoo
   I've seen Microsoft (?) MacIntosh BASIC on sale at a computer store
in Mobtreal (last weekend).  It was listed at something like $200 CAN.
They also had multiplan.  I guess the Mac software has arrived. Unfortunately,
they salesman told me they couldn't get any (enough) machines.
-- 
   Gregory Dudek
   {cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo,uw-beaver}!utcsrgv!dudek

tower@inmet.UUCP (03/23/84)

#R:ittral:-39100:inmet:17900012:000:262
inmet!tower    Mar 21 17:37:00 1984

Re: MacLanguages
The article in the Feb. 84 Byte, said that both MacBasic and MacPascal
were "interpreted". The availability claimed was 2Q 1984, with LOGO and
an Assembler/Debugger to follow in 3Q 1984.

-len tower        harpo!inmet!tower        Cambridge, MA