[net.micro.apple] Apple Access

jbyrd@BBN-VAX.ARPA (06/12/84)

From:  James Byrd <jbyrd@BBN-VAX.ARPA>

Someone a few days back (I don't remember who) pointed out that Apple has
come out with Apple Access, a terminal program that claims to have vt100
compatibility as one of its options.

The vt100 compatibility claim isn't true.  For one thing, the manual only
claims that it implements "most" of the vt100 features, whatever that means.
To see it fail pretty badly, try this:  dial up to a computer that has an
emacs editor, call emacs on some file, split the screen, and use "escape z"
in the lower window a few times.  As soon as the text starts to scroll down,
the display falls apart.  Other examples are easy to find.

The package would be a LOT more more useful if Apple had actually
implemented the vt100 commands.  As it is, I'm not sure what it's emulating.
It seems only marginally useful for trying to use a screen editor which
thinks it is on a vt100.

Jim Byrd

jbyrd@BBN-VAX.ARPA (07/04/84)

From:  James Byrd <jbyrd@BBN-VAX.ARPA>

I made a little progress on my Apple Access/Microsoft Softcard bug (the one
where on booting, I would get garbage all over the second screen, and the
boot never finished).  (running self-test, and then immediately booting
avoids the problem)

For one thing, it's not the Microsoft Softcard IIe (80-column, 64K, CP/M) at
fault.  I replaced it by a borrowed Quadram 80-column 64K card, and the same
thing happened.  I tried it on a IIc, and the problem did not happen at all.

Has anyone else run this program on a IIe?  Does it work for other people?

Now I'm thinking there may be some sort of timing problem which may go away
if I use a faster chip somewhere, but I have no idea where to look.  I have
no idea what Apple Access does to provoke the problem.

I would appreciate any ideas anyone has.  Thanks.

Jim Byrd

MKrigel.ES@XEROX.ARPA (07/06/84)

That t problem exists on the //e and not the //c may be indicative of
the fact that the ROM in the //e and //c are not identical.  Sometime
this quarter, Apple is supposed to be selling the //c ROMS for
installatio into the //e.


Marc