boylan@dicomed.UUCP (05/25/84)
This is my second posting of this. Doesn't ANYONE out there have
a Lisa with UNIX on it??? I have received a couple of indirect
pointers to information that I am following up. I'll post the
results in a week or so.
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I am thinking about buying an Apple Lisa-2 for my very own UNIX machine.
(I can get a very good price on any configuration.) However I know
practically nothing about the machine. This is a query to obtain information
from real live Lisa-2 users. I will post a summary to net.micro of
what I get and am free to quote. Thanks for your help. Some questions:
What UNIX do you have and what do you think of it?
How is the support?
Can you reconfigure it? (Relink it?)
Can you run Apple software off the cassette and/or selectively boot
UNIX/Apple software?
Does the basic Lisa-2 come with an integral disk controller?
Is the disk interface something standard or is it a roll-your-own?
Can I plug in a Maxtor with mucho storage, or similar, into
the Lisa?
How is the performance?
Do you like it?
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Chris Boylan
{mgnetp | ihnp4 | uwvax}!dicomed!boylanbroehl@wateng.UUCP (Bernie Roehl) (05/30/84)
I suspect that you won't get many responses re: Unix on a Lisa.
There just weren't all that many Lisas sold, and the intersection
set between Lisa users and netters is likely to be small.
Best of luck, though.
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-Bernie Roehl (University of Waterloo)peters@cubsvax.UUCP (05/31/84)
I missed the original news article on this subject, and saw only
a discouraging reply. I know that there *is* a UNIX for the Lisa,
and it comes out of New Jersey. I just looked for the envelope
on which I had (several months ago) scribbled the source, and couldn't
find it. (It may have been purged in a recent cleaning of my desk.)
If the person who was interested is still interested, s/he should
send me mail, and I will get the information and pass it on.
{philabs,cmcl2!rocky2}!cubsvax!peters Dr. Peter S. Shenkin
Dept of Biol. Sci.; Columbia Univ.; New York, N. Y. 10027; 212-280-5517tac@teldata.UUCP () (06/04/84)
, (sop to the blank line eaters--consider it a religious sacrifice)
To the fellow who expects no responses I say, "Au Contrair!" A
friend here at work and I have each ordered a Lisa 2/10 and Unisoft's
Uniplus operating system. His has arrived, mine has not. I did not
want to reply to the original posting because the request was for
people who already had experience and were running it now. They are
out there. I would like to here more about the small systems out there
running UNIX, as that is an excellent topic for the net.
From the Soapbox of
Tom Condon {...!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac}
A Radical A Day Keeps The Government At Bay.
DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed herein are those of everyone who
matters, but not necessarily anyone you know, and most certainly not
my employers!bass@dmsd.UUCP (John Bass) (07/25/84)
Lisa unix was ported by both Unisoft (UniPlus+) and Microsoft (Xenix).
The UniSoft port is easily available from UniPress Software (201)985-8000.
It contains the whole works (System V, C compiler, Berkley vi & csh, and
more for $1495.00 list. Played with the demo at a show for a few minutes,
it's real and quite usable ... will be nicer when Apple releases the
fast disk controller.
UniPress also offers SVS languages, RM Cobol, SMC stuff, Irvine ADA,
UNIFY, LEX WP, TOM Acct pkgs, RDB, VERTEX, Phact ISAM, and other
bussiness software for it. Also 25-100mb drives and tape.
There are plenty of lisa's around ... after the last price reduction
to complement Mac's they are pretty cheap for what you get.
(Have looked at trading my 11/23 XENIX in on one ... would be nice to
find a really cheap used one in good condition!)
John Bass
{dual,fortune,hpda,idi}!dmsd!bassjohan@apple.UUCP (Johan Strandberg) (07/29/84)
Unisoft makes a UNIX for the Lisa. Currently they have been shiping
System III and are soon (if not allready) shiping System V.
_________________________Computare necesse est!______________________
Johan Strandberg
Apple Computer Education Research Group [ERG]
{mtxinu,dual,nsc,voder}!apple!johandmt@hocsl.UUCP (08/29/84)
REFERENCE: <139@apple.UUCP> There is an article in the current (Aug 84) BYTE, which benchmarks various UN*X implementations on various machines. Judging from their results, LISA with Sys III+ is the slowest of the slow. Even the IBM PC XT implementations were much faster.