spector@acf4.UUCP (09/19/84)
I have to disagree. You knew what you were getting into when you bought your Macintosh. No one twisted your arm. And if you calm down for a minute and look at the market price of chips (256K Drams), Labour, and of course the money apple is losing in all those mother boards it has to rebuild, you are getting a good deal for your $995. As I recall the upgrade was rumoured to cost $1500 -> $1800 range. So count your blessings. I too have to fork out the $995 to upgrade MY Macintosh, but for the added memopry, speed and performance its worth it. If you wanted "perfection" you should have bought an IBM-PC. Oh, yeah, if you paid the regular price ($2495...) for your Mac, you also get $250 worth of FREE software; MacProject and MacDraw as I understand. David HM Spector NYU/acf Systems Group spector@nyu-cmcl1.ARPA ...allegra!cmcl2!cmcl1!spector "These opinions are mine and in all probability don't reflect those of my employer" Also, I don't work for Apple Computer, Inc., or any of its affiliates, etc, I am just a satisfied Macintosh owner who has a LOT (<- Heavy emphasis) of fun with his Macintosh!
ward@hao.UUCP (Mike Ward) (09/20/84)
[] >Oh, yeah, if you paid the regular price ($2495...) for your Mac, you also >get $250 worth of FREE software; MacProject and MacDraw as I understand. Sounds like you did *NOT* pay the "regular" price. A good reason to be satisfied. Those of us who did pay list price, thinking that the machine would hold its value for a year or so, are feeling very foolish, indeed. >I am just a satisfied Macintosh owner who has a LOT (<- Heavy emphasis) of >fun with his Macintosh! I had fun with my Mac for a month or so, too. Then I tried to do some work with it. Then I found out that I had *NOT* known what I bought. I found out that all of Apple's promised were lies. No decent software. No development tools. Nothing but frustration. If you're doing anything other than playing silly games with your Mac, please let us know what. And how. -- Michael Ward, NCAR/SCD UUCP: {hplabs,nbires,brl-bmd,seismo,menlo70,stcvax}!hao!ward ARPA: hplabs!hao!sa!ward@Berkeley BELL: 303-497-1252 USPS: POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307
bass@dmsd.UUCP (John Bass) (09/23/84)
Too the flamers and cryers ... I don't own a MAC ... but borrow one regularly to do REAL work using beta copies of MacPlan and MacDraw over the last weeks ... I have few gripes about the product. For a machine that has only been out a few months in volume everything seems to be doing well ... Dozens of packages are hiting the market. The early IBM PC owners (and those of any other machine I can think of) went thru worse during the first 12 months of product introduction ... Apple told no lies from what I can tell from having watched the product from before it's release .... we all knew from the first day that the other products from apple were months out from First Customer Ship. As for the whine about price reductions ... WHAT THE &*^%*&^% are you (*&^(*&^%$ bitching about .... prices coming down from intial introduction is a FACT OF LIFE. If you want to talk of depreciation look at the sale price differential of a new car, mobile home, stero ... to value 12 months after introduction ... nothings changed in this world. AND Apple ramped production fast enough not to have the SHORTAGE problems found for 6-24 months typical of IBM and DEC. Cry if you wish ... but you are so spoiled as to not know what (troubles) you have missed. Whats the matter ... doesn't your mother love you? It's a shame sometimes that the freedom of speech can be used to so widely bad mouth a supplier who is bending over backward to give us a better product than the IBM PC (its clones) and simular outdated 1970's products that are 1980's trash. John Bass
spector@acf4.UUCP (09/24/84)
[ Go Macintosh! ]
Its nice to see a few people agree with me, but for those of you who are
still torqued about the value of your 128K Mac going down the tubes, look
on the bright side. At least you didn't but an IBM-PC/xt the day before
they announced the price cuts and the new PC/at. Those folks really took
a bath. And I still say we're getting a decent price for more memory, better
performance, et al.
(By the way, anyone got $995 I can borrow for my Macintosh's upgrade? ;-)
"My opinion STILL may not reflect that of New York University, or anyone
else in particular..."
David HM Spector
NYU/acf Systems Group
Arpa: spector@nyu-cmcl1.ARPA
UUCP: ...!allagra!cmcl2!cmcl1!spector
PS: MacTerminal, MacProject and MacDraw are rumoured to be available in
New York area stores...