[net.micro.apple] Can a 65C02 be used in an Apple ][?

joeloda@aicchi.UUCP (Joseph D. Loda) (02/08/85)

Can a 65C02 microprocessor be used to replace the "standard" 6502 processor
in an Apple ][ or ][+?  If so, are there any problems that may offset the
benefits?  Thanks in advance.

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cs2532aa@unm-cvax.UUCP (02/11/85)

>From: joeloda@aicchi.UUCP (Joseph D. Loda)
>
> Can a 65C02 microprocessor be used to replace the "standard" 6502 processor
> in an Apple ][ or ][+?  If so, are there any problems that may offset the
> benefits?  Thanks in advance.

This is from issue #16 (latest issue; orange cover) of Hardcore COMPUTIST:

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"Who wants a 65C02?"

Hardcore COMPUTIST is planning to make a volume purchase of 65C02 micro-
processors should a sufficient number of readers indicate that they would
like to purchase one of the chips.  The main advantage of a 65C02 is an
enhanced instruction set.

The 65C02 processor from NCR is being used in the Apple //c but can be
substituted for the 6502 in Apple //e's.  Apple ][ and ][ Plus owners can
also utilize the 65C02, but may have to replace two 74LS257 chips on the
motherboard with faster 74F257's (74F257's will also be available for those
who need them).  We plan to purchase the chips from wither NCR or GTE.

If you are interested in a 65C02 for your Apple or compatiable, drop us a
line and let us know what kind of system you have (][, ][ Plus, //e or
Apple-compatiable [please specify brand]).  You will be notified if/when
you may place your order.  The tentative cost for a single chip is under
$10.  Send your letter to:

	Hardcore COMPUTIST
	PO Box 110846C
	Tacoma, WA  98411
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Hope this helps...

	.rne.

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In article <> joeloda@aicchi.UUCP (Joseph D. Loda) writes:

>Can a 65C02 microprocessor be used to replace the "standard" 6502 processor
>in an Apple ][ or ][+?  If so, are there any problems that may offset the
>benefits?  Thanks in advance.

Rumor has it that soon all Apple //e's will be shipped with the new 65C02
microprocessor and the //c ROMs (much improved over the //e ones) as standard
equipment.  Also, you will be able to obtain //c ROMs and 65C02 to install
in your present Apple //e.  Apple has other things on it's mind right now,
so it may be a while yet (several months) before these things come to pass.

This mod applies to the //e only, by the way.

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gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (02/11/85)

> Rumor has it that soon all Apple //e's will be shipped with the new 65C02
> microprocessor and the //c ROMs (much improved over the //e ones) as standard
> equipment.  Also, you will be able to obtain //c ROMs and 65C02 to install
> in your present Apple //e.  Apple has other things on it's mind right now,
> so it may be a while yet (several months) before these things come to pass.

Please, the first person to find out how to get the //e upgrade, POST
the information here.  (By the way, the ROMs may not be exactly those used
in the //c, but should be similar in operation.)

eve@ssc-bee.UUCP (Michael Eve) (02/13/85)

	Yes.

	A friend replaced the 6502 in his old ][+ with a 65c02 with
	no problems although some say it will not work.  It may
	be a critical timing problem where some chips will work in
	some Apples but not others.

	caveat: Not all 65c02's are created equal.  If you want to
	be Apple compatible, be sure to buy a chip made by the
	same manufacturer (NEC, I believe but check it out) that
	Apple uses.  Different companies have added different
	instructions to the 6502 basic instruction set!

	Best bet may be to buy the chip from your Apple dealer.

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