[net.micro.apple] Apple ][+ vs //e board compatability

jtjones@tetra.UUCP (Jeffrey T. Jones) (12/03/85)

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I'm looking for some information on the compatability of some of my ][+ cards
with a //e.

Specifically, can I use the following cards in a //e?

	1.  Hayes Micromodem ][
	2.  Microsoft Softcard
	3.  Videx Ultraterm

I'm pretty sure the micromodem ][ works, and I know the ultraterm partially 
does, but I'm quite unsure about the softcard and am hesitant about trying
it out since I think I remember hearing about some (major??) problems using 
it in the //e.  I know Microsoft later came out with a Softcard //e, but why.

Also, even though the Ultraterm works fine by itself, if you have an extended
80-column card (or equiv.) installed, can you use some of the different modes
of the Ultraterm (like 80x48 or 128x32) and still be using the auxillary memory?
Or do you have to use the 80-col mode on the extended card?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks all.
								Jeff Jones
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33500911@sdcc13.UUCP ({|lit}) (12/12/85)

From the fingers of Benjy Mouse at uiucuxa.CSO.UIUC.EDU (U of I):
>
>  The Hayes Micromodem ][ will work just fine with the //e, however, there
> may be some problems with the Microsoft Softcard...I believe that if you have
> an extended 80-column card in slot 0, you may have some trouble with it. When
> I boot up the Microsoft CP/M disk, the screen clears, and goes into 80-column
> mode, but doesn't display anything. The card worked fine on my ][+, but it
> hasn't worked too well (ie not at all) on my //e...I'm going to see if its
> something I'm doing, but I don't think it's me...
>
> Benjy Mouse
> University of Illinois

Yup.  The person (dare I call him an 'engineer') who designed the
original MS Softcard took quite a few liberties with the ][ and ][+
timing.  The Z80 mode got fouled up do to the Softcard mis-calculating
bus acceses.  They came out with a fix.

Same thing happened with AE (ithink) and Orbital systems (I know.)
when the //e came out.

For all intents and purposes, the older Hayes MM]['s shouldn't work
on a //e.  That's why there's a Micromodem //e.  You must have
an earlier model.

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