[net.micro.apple] Request info on structured lang's suitable for serious development

cdaf@iuvax.UUCP (Charles Daffinger) (06/16/86)

I work at a small software house (ca. 45 employees) developing educational
software.  Most of our stuff is in APPLESOFT (ugh!) and assembler, with 
an ampersand extension to BASIC (to do all kinds of neat stuff).  We want
to get away from applesoft, since its structure (or lack thereof) dons not
lend itself to our working environment.  We are looking for a structured 
language, like MODULA-2, a DOS based PASCAL (sorry.. no CP/M), C, or the
like.  The disadvantages to those which have been reviewed are their extremely
slow compile time, ergo development time, and difficulty in adding our own
machine code routines.  Anybody out there who has used or knows of a         
structured language for the apple, please let me know i) where I can get it
(eg who makes it), ii) how reliable is it?   Is it suitable for SERIOUS 
development work?  iii) how would you rate compile time, and whether you
know if an accelerator card would speed compile time significantly, iv) How
large a program will it support on a 64K ][+ or //e, v) Will it link routines
from a user-created library?  vi) What are its graphics capability?  vii)
will it link User-written Assembly code?  viii) how much does it cost?
    
Any reply would be greatly appreciated.   -
                                             CDAFfy

ranger@ecsvax.UUCP (Rick N. Fincher) (06/26/86)

> 
> I work at a small software house (ca. 45 employees) developing educational
> software.  Most of our stuff is in APPLESOFT (ugh!) and assembler, with 
> an ampersand extension to BASIC (to do all kinds of neat stuff).  We want
> to get away from applesoft, since its structure (or lack thereof) dons not
> lend itself to our working environment.  We are looking for a structured 
> language, like MODULA-2, a DOS based PASCAL (sorry.. no CP/M), C, or the
> like.  The disadvantages to those which have been reviewed are their extremely
> slow compile time, ergo development time, and difficulty in adding our own
> machine code routines.  Anybody out there who has used or knows of a         
> structured language for the apple, please let me know i) where I can get it
> (eg who makes it), ii) how reliable is it?   Is it suitable for SERIOUS 
> development work?  iii) how would you rate compile time, and whether you
> know if an accelerator card would speed compile time significantly, iv) How
> large a program will it support on a 64K ][+ or //e, v) Will it link routines
> from a user-created library?  vi) What are its graphics capability?  vii)
> will it link User-written Assembly code?  viii) how much does it cost?
>     
> Any reply would be greatly appreciated.   -
>                                              CDAFfy

try aztec 'c' from manx software, a prodos version is in beta test but
they will sell it to you. call them for info.

rick fincher rick@ncsuvm