[net.women] Friends/Lovers - a different thought

pwb (03/23/83)

	I suggest that a friendship (presumably heterosexual) that
has been abruptly broken up by a sexual encounter is not an example of
the adverse effects of sex upon friendships, nor a demonstration of
"most people's (sexual) hangups" (Yuk!).  It is simply a reflection on the
nature of the friendship.  If the sexual encounter had never occurred,
the friendship would have probably ended in a similar fashion anyway,
only it would have taken longer.  Sex plays only the part of a catalyst,
bringing on the inevitable.

	This brings up to the real issue: the quality of friendships
(relationships) between women and men.

				Phil


p.s.	can the fellow named ...!hou5f!Lloyd come up with some statistics
	on "the infrequency with which these (successful sexual/friendship)
	relationships occur"?  If your going to generalize, let's have
	some numbers please!

Lloyd (03/29/83)

	Alas, my point is missed once more. My remark regarding the frequency/
infrequency of these relationships was prompted not only by the comments made
to me by many people (female and male) with whom I have discussed this but also
from the inference that if there is so much comment about "why can't we ..."
on the net then it seems reasonable to deduce that the occurence is limited.
Perhaps your thirst for statistical information may be satisfied if you ask
your fellow netters that question. One further point, why should you limit
your considerations to "presumably heterosexual" relationships? Can I infer
from this that your "open-mindedness" on this subject has LIMITATIONS!!!!!
... Or is that just another of those " 'sexual hangups'(yuk!)" ?

	Awaiting your reply with a great deal of skepticism ...

turner (04/02/83)

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ucbesvax!turner    Apr  1 13:52:00 1983

	To say that a friendship apparently broken up by a sexual encounter
    "would have probably ended in a similar fashion anyway" is sorta dodgy.
    Can you give me an example of something "similar"?  Like, maybe, a sour
    grape?

	The whole tone of the foregoing note is that sex is (or should
    be) just another thing that friends do together.  I tend to disagree,
    but I don't deny the existence of people who are capable of "just
    friends" sex, or friendships with an unambiguous sexual component.
    Nor do I pass judgement on them.  ("Some of my best friends", etc.)

	As long as you are asking after statistics, how about your own?
    I.e., what's your batting average?

	(Mine, by the way, is rather poor by your implicit standards --
    I am a monogamist if there ever was one.)

	Michael Turner
	ucbvax!esvax:turner