sarno@hogpc.UUCP (06/09/83)
For ages men have been 'looked up to' by women. It is even apparent in the traditional wedding vow that requests a woman 'obey' her husband, but does not require that a man obey his wife. Slowly I thought things were changing...that women wanted to be 'equal' to men and men wanted women to be 'equal' also. Atleast in the professional environment where we all have good jobs, it seems this is so . But I have to wonder how true it is; that, indeed, professional men DO want women to be equal. I wonder this because I happen to be quite interested in participating in various sports, and lots of people consider me very good at them (a relative thing...I see many people that are much better than I). I have some good male friends that have told me that my active interest, participation, and success (most importantly) can make a man feel inadequate. WHY? Because a guy needs to be BETTER than a women in most ways! So have things really changed if this is the way most men feel? I wonder if most men really DO feel this way? Must women that are good at things, and possibly BETTER than a male hide this? Do men really have such low levels of confidence? If women had to put up with assuming the man was more capable for years and years, I would not think men would find it so hard to accept and feel comfortable with women being AS good in some things as they are. signed, Not a helpless female and cannot pretend to be so
ginger@ssc-vax.UUCP (06/10/83)
What they're telling you is that *their* feelings are more important that yours, and what's more, it's your job as a woman to protect and nurture their egos and you're not feminine if you don't. Bullsh*t!!! Why should you protect a man's ego at the expense of your own? Play whatever sports you want to and do your best to win. If some guys can't handle being beaten by an "inferior" let them cower in a corner and whimper. There are too many fine men in the world for you to worry about a few ego-babies. ssc-vax!ginger
woods@hao.UUCP (06/10/83)
First of all, *I* enjoy a competent woman and do not always have to
be better than she at everything.
But, there is a confidence crisis among men right now. Many men feel
(somewhat justifiably) that women do not need us [as much] any more. BUT, it
is still men that have to lay their egos out on the line for the woman to reject
in initiation of any sort of personal contact. Sometimes it seems to me
that women would like to have their cake and eat it too. An understandable
desire, but it is, of course, impossible.
GREG
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!hao!woodsdlr@sdchema.UUCP (06/14/83)
These stories of men and women in sports remind me of an experience during high school. Some friends and I used to go to the local community college one evening a week to play soccer, as few people played at the high school. There was always a varied number of players of both sexes at these games. Well one week one of the women walked right up to the guy with the ball and took it away from him. They were both good players, however he was outraged that a woman could take the ball from him! He never showed up (with his damaged ego) to play again, and we just laughed. Del Richardson sdcsvax!sdchema!dlr
ray@utcsrgv.UUCP (Raymond Allen) (06/14/83)
ref:<hao!woods> "Many men feel (somewhat justifiably) that women do not need us [as much] any more." Sounds to me as if GREG has read the recent article wherin it was related that some researchers in Britan were able to take the chromosomes from two human female eggs, combine them in a single cell, and obtain an "entity" which began to reproduce itself (EGAD!) Here's hoping that one day i'll be the only man in a woman's world. (Well, maybe) Ray Allen ...utcsrgv!ray (416) 978-5036
rew@nscs.UUCP (06/15/83)
Just to keep the record straight, the British researchers observed spontaneous reproduction of an unfertilized ovum. This means that the new cells had only half the normal human complement of chromosomes. So this is not parthenogenesis but the creation of a new life form. If such an organism could survive it would be interesting to see the result. In the plant world the opposite reproductive sequence is known to occur, i.e. offspring with double the number of chromosomes as the 'parent'. Corn (maize to you purists) is an example. Bob Warren cbosgd!nscs!rew