freda@tekid.UUCP (Fred Azinger) (07/13/83)
I heard this on the radio this morning. I was in the shower, half asleep, so I missed who the source was. According to studies: Men who's wives are college educated and work have a three times greater risk of developing heart disease than those with wives who have only a grade-school education and do not work. Just repeating what I heard, but I typed this with asbestos gloves on.
mason@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Mason) (07/14/83)
..men with degreed wives have more heart disease than others..
Maybe it's that women with degrees are more upwardly mobile and marry
men who are more "go-getters". All I can go on is my wife & I. We have
very agressive goals for the next few years and are working very hard to get
there. Also families where the wife stays at home may have tacitly agreed
that money etc. are not as important (ie. one salary is enough) so the
husband may not have as much pressure. In short I don't think that men like
them stupid but put that family choice of aggressive life style may increase
heart problems.
Asbestos at the ready...
-- Gandalf's flunky Hobbit -- Dave Mason, U. Toronto CSRG,
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or {cwruecmp,duke,linus,lsuc,research}!utzoo!utcsrgv!mason (UUCP)egl@vax135.UUCP (07/15/83)
According to studies: Men who's wives are college educated and work have a three times greater risk of developing heart disease than those with wives who have only a grade-school education and do not work. I saw the article on the front page of USA Today on 4/14. Therefore, freda@tekid probably did hear it on the radio. However, I don't have a very high opinion of USA today, so... (I was waiting for someone and read the front page from the newspaper machine.) Ellen Walker vax135!egl vax135!daisy!egl
rs55611@ihuxk.UUCP (07/15/83)
The statistic that men whose wives are college-educated and work are more likely to suffer heart attacks than men whose wives don't work doesn't surprise me too much, but we have to be carefull to separate cause and effect from unrelated data. For example, here is a possible explanation for this (just an idea, based on speculation, with no hard supporting evidence): I think its probably true that women with college degrees are more likely to be married to men with college degrees, than to men without a degree. Thus, the husbands of women with college degrees will have a higher probability of working at a "white-collar", desk-type job. This type of work would be more prone to stress (mental), and would entail less physical activity. Thus, these men would be more prone to heart attacks, not because their wives are college educated and work, but because the husbands themselves are likely to be working at more stressful jobs, with little exercise. -just a theory (and it's at best one of many contributing factors) Bob Schleicher
smb@ulysses.UUCP (07/17/83)
I saw a more complete version of that story on the AP wire. The results were based on data extracted from the Framingham study, a massive and ongoing study of a sample of 5000 people in one town. The researchers studied couples where the husband was between 45 and 64. They did indeed find that the husband's risk of a heart attack was correlated with (*not* caused by; statistical studies can't establish causality) the wife's educational level. They also found that children and the wife's employment outside the home were aggravating factors. However -- the researchers pointed out that because of the age of the participants, the women were employed at a time when that was a relatively uncommon activity. Given the changing social and marital attitudes, they caution against applying these results uncritically to today's couples. Yes, I know -- much less spectacular that way..... --Steve Bellovin
ajw@ccvaxa.UUCP (07/19/83)
#R:tekid:-139500:ccvaxa:21400007:000:355 ccvaxa!ajw Jul 18 09:59:00 1983 Is this because: ? College educated women are more of a challenge for their mates? ? College educated women bring their problems home and share them with their mate? ? College educated women don't have time to share with their mate, due to their own career interests? Other points of view? (The original article was in the Wall St. Journal last week.)
jamcmullan@watmath.UUCP (Judy McMullan) (07/19/83)
July 19, 1983
I believe the study in question actually showed that it was amongst the
"Type A" men that a correlation between incidence of heart attacks and wife's
education, was found. The solution is probably for the Type A men to relax &
become Type Bs.
--Judy McMullan
...!{allegra|hcr|utzoo|utcsrgv|bunker|decvax}!watmath!jamcmullanholt@parsec.UUCP (07/20/83)
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parsec!holt Jul 19 10:35:00 1983
Could this be one of those totally misleading statistics we all hear
so much about???
What if college educated men, who, (let us hypothesize) tend to take
on more stressful jobs, and as such are more prone to heart ailments,
are also more likely to choose college educated women as mates? If this is
the case, it is possibly not the choice of college educated women which
leads to heart attacks, but the choice of work environment. The choice of
mates could be incidental.
Really now, how can we be expected to draw any rational conclusions
from this when we are only presented with a fraction of the overall
picture??? And to think that the Wall Street Journal printed this article!
Did you know that the average person who sits in front of a crt all
day has a higher IQ than joe schmuck on the street? That must mean that
video terminals increase IQ!!!!
I mean, really.......
Dave Holt
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