[net.women] sexist language

gcsherwood@watcgl.UUCP (Geoffrey C. Sherwood) (08/11/83)

This is a followup to an article; when I tried to followup the
usual way, the turkey kept core dumping on me.

Anyway, as far a language goes, Judy made the comment that
because "sexist" language is offensive to some, efforts should
be made to avoid it.  I am inclined to disagree.  Whether to
change my language or not is a personal decision, and what some
people think about it is not germane. I personally find the use
of the word "their" rather offensive when substituted for "his"
because one is singular and one is plural.  Number should match.

However, I am not going to wage a crusade against it.  When I hear
it used, I just wince a little and go on about my business.  I have
not been appointed Divine Guardian of Speech and have no wish to
take on that responsibility.  "Leave others to their otherness" is
a good idea, although at times it is difficult to follow.

Trying to force it will be as successful as introducing "posslq".

		- geoff sherwood -
		- U. of Waterloo -
	

wombat@uicsl.UUCP (08/14/83)

#R:watcgl:-67100:uicsl:16400009:000:762
uicsl!wombat    Aug 13 13:54:00 1983

***** uicsl:net.women / watcgl!gcsherwood /  6:34 pm  Aug 10, 1983
I personally find the use
of the word "their" rather offensive when substituted for "his"
because one is singular and one is plural.  Number should match.
		- geoff sherwood -
		- U. of Waterloo -
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Really? Do you wince every time you have to use "you" referring
to only one person? Someday, I hope, (they, them, their) will be
seen as another construction similar to (you, you, your). You
just aren't used to hearing it yet. No one can force you to change,
but if you listen to normal conversations, many people seem
reluctant to use (he, him, his) for unknown gender and are using
(they, them, their) without stopping to think about it.
						Wombat
						pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat

marc@emory.UUCP (08/16/83)

Take note:
	male	man	guy
	female	woman	lady

The male words have one syllable and the female have two.
It is just plain harder to pronounce a word constructed
using one of these female words: 'chairman' is easier to
say than 'chairwoman'.  
	Consider the effects of such a switch:

	manhunt	    -->	    womenhunt
	manhour     -->	    womanhour
	manhole	    -->     womanhole
	malevolent  -->	    femalevolent

Whats worse is that the genderless word 'person' has two
syllables also.  

What we need is a new set of one syllable female words...

;)	Marcus	(sb1!emory!marc)

katz@beesvax.UUCP (08/16/83)

sorry, guy! how about -

        male    man     guy
        fem     dame    gal

try again!