[net.women] Toiletiquette

ded@aplvax.UUCP (08/02/83)

Toilet seats -- now there's a subject which divides the sexes.  I tend to
leave toilet seats the way I leave them.  But I've met women who strongly feel
that toilet seats should always be left down.

What's wrong with these women?  Why can't they look before they sit?  Why
should I leave the toilet seat in the female position when there's a good
chance the male position will be required by the next user?  Am I my sister's
keeper?

halle1@houxz.UUCP (08/08/83)

Common courtesy would have you put down not just the seat, but the lid, too.
Anyone who would leave it up is just plain lazy.  It looks better down,
it keeps the pets out, and it doesn't wake you up in the middle of the
night, which is the only time the seat drops, of course.

This has nothing to do with looking first.  This way, everyone lifts something,
so there are no surprises.  (Try sitting down - and in - at three in the
morning.)

Believe me, it's not hard to remember.  Now I do it automatically even in
houses where it's not SOP.  Not lowering all pieces is thoughtless.
Refusing to is arrogant.

stevel@ima.UUCP (08/10/83)

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ima!stevel    Aug  9 10:04:00 1983

I seem to remember a flurry of articles (in news papers, remember
those) about small kids (2-4 years) falling into toilets and
drowning (seat knocks head and kid falls in). Yet another reason
to leave seats down all the time.

Steve Ludlum decvax!yale-co!ima!stevel, {ihnp4|ucbvax}!cbosgd!ima!stevel,
decwrl!amd70!ima!stevel, {uscvax|ucla-vax|vortex}!ism780!stevel

madrid@auvax (Roslyn Madrid) (08/12/83)

  Here's a simple (non-gender-specific) answer to your questions:  
Imagine that you get an attack of The Runs in the middle of the
night.  Would you rather have the seat up or down?  A person
making a middle-of-the-night visit, for whatever purpose, doesn't
need the sudden wakefulness that comes from bare flesh contacting
cold porcelain and/or water.
  Another aspect to consider: Toddlers frequently find the
toilet fascinating - occasionally with tragic results.  Keeping
the lid down is a prudent act when small children are around.
(I've seen a gizmo with suction cups advertised that holds the
lid down, for what it's worth ....)
                                      
                                       R.
                                       auvax!madrid

dan@aplvax.UUCP (08/13/83)

I hear that there are some outfits that are now teaching
cats how to use the toilet.  Apparently, they can climb
up on the seat and let go in the bowl.  They're not
too good, however, at lifting the seat up or flushing
it all down afterward.  NTL (nevertheless) some people
find that this is preferable to cleaning out the kitty
litter box each week.  So what's the point?  Its this-
if you're using the john at someone's house and they've
left the lid up, please don't bad mouth them - they're
probably just trying to accomodate their cat.

laura@utcsstat.UUCP (08/16/83)

I had no idea this was such a issue. FYI i keep the seat up all
the time, except when I am washing the toilet and dont want to
smell the bleech, and truly thought that the seat was to keep the
bleech smell in. I dont have fuzzy things on my seat either...

actually, someone mentioned the Runs. Having spent the last weekend
sick with the same I can testify that on several occasions I was
very glad *not* to have the seat down, for i honestly don't think
I had the time to lift the seat. it was *that* close...

laura creighton
utzoo!utcsstat!laura

joe@fluke.UUCP (Joe Kelsey) (08/16/83)

While I was still single and living alone I acquired the habit of
"squatting" for all of my visits to the bathroom, except for public
restrooms where urinals are provided.  I do not know of a way for a man
to urinate into a toilet without creating a mess (splashes, etc.), and
I also do not know of any men willing to take the extra time to clean
up after themselves.  I solved this for myself (since I belong to the
"minimalist" school of housekeeping) by changing my habits to what I
consider a "saner" approach to the problem.  Also, at 3am I hate
opening my eyes to the glare of the bathroom light, and you don't have
to aim when you are sitting down!  Now that I am married and in the
minority in my household (my wife and her two daughters outnumber me!),
the habit I taught myself before this keeps everyone from raising a
ruckus about a really trivial problem.

/Joe

CSvax:Pucc-H:aeq@pur-ee.UUCP (08/25/83)

Of course, another good reason to put the lid down is that it eliminates
the risk of ANY objects (not just pets, but possibly valuable things in the
slippery hand of a human) falling into the maw of the toilet monster.

And how did this facet of "toiletiquette" get into net.women, anyway?

-- Jeff Sargent/pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq
(Love that delimiter-sensitive syntax [gag!])