[net.women] Michael Ellis's heresy

seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (09/09/83)

Michael,
	I agree with much of what you say. however...

yes, child-rearing is very important, but not necessarily the very
most important thing you can possibly do.

yes, equal pay for equal work.

time off for child-raising would be very nice. Either in the form of
2-3 years off or in the form of work part-time for 4-6 years. The
latter would allow you to keep up with developments at least somewhat.

			<<< flame on >>>

Where the !$@&^% do you get off calling BMWs a bunch of TV inspired
crap??  Where was TV when BMW was making the first modern sportscar
in 1937? Would you rather have us drive 5000 pound, unsafe land
barges from Detroit? These use more raw materials to make, they
take more gas to drive, they go out-of-control before you can say
"understeer", and maim or kill you when the accident happens.
BMWs weigh about half of their Detroit counterparts, get quite
respectable fuel economy, are designed to give the driver absolute
control so as to *avoid* accidents, and are built to absorb sufficient
energy upon impact that you would have a hard time killing yourself
if you *tried*. They happen to be quite practical. Yes, they are
slightly more expensive than Detroit's offerings (but not all *that*
much), and when you compare the quality, safety, and life expectancy,
they are actually a bargain in the long run.  So the things happen
to be fun to drive. Well EXCUSE ME!  Maybe I should go back to
writing in FORTRAN on punched cards, because UNIX is more fun
and therefore must be illegal, immoral, or fattening.

			<<< flame off >>>

If you want to attack materialism, fine.  Just be a little more
careful what examples you use next time, ok?

To the net:
	sorry for the outburst, but stereotypes about cars and the
type of people that drive them, and the *reasons* they drive them
are insulting and damaging. Not everyone that drives a BMW wears
Gucci loafers or owns 10% of {insert your favorite blue-chip stock}.

				Dave Seifert
				BMWCCA, Windy City Chapter
				ihnp4!ihuxl!seifert

of course, now I fully expect to receive flames from some Gucci
enthusiest. (sp)	:-)

nrf@whuxlb.UUCP (09/10/83)

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whuxlb!nrf    Sep 10 01:59:00 1983

Well, if you are in to stereotypes, here is some fuel for your rockets:

my experience with BMW drivers is that they drive so aggressively that
it more than counteracts any claimed safety features..........