[net.women] A reply to Thanh

welsch@houxu.UUCP (09/15/83)

Some responses to thanh's reply to my response to his article on
hair.  Thanh's comments are indented.

	Larry, I give up unconditionally when you
	said that you would shave if you were in a
	jungle? Is it the fact to show how
	abnormal/honest you are on the net (if
	that's what you were, you should hide it)?

This question is like the infamous "When did you stop beating
your wife?"  No I did not say it to show how "abnormal/honest" I
am.  Jungles happen to be full of insects and do not provide
much opportunity for cleanliness.  Hair provides an ideal hiding
place for insects and dirt.  In such an environment hair is more
of a nuisance than a value and yes I would shave under such
conditions.  

	I didn't see it funny, and found that it
	(your statement) only made a fool of
	yourself (Take this advice: Don't be so
	upset next time because the more you
	upsetted, the poorer judgment you made if
	you have any).

The statement was not intended to be funny.  Your advice is
worth what it costs.

	You gave me a lesson about the usefulness of
	your hair and beard without any knowledge
	about (1) that I didn't say or ever claimed
	that you or anyone else must shave all of
	their body hair, and (2) that what happen
	for all women who didn't have beard to keep
	them away "frosting their breath, keeping
	sub-zero temp. from hitting their face, etc.
	(Doesn't it also mean that women from North
	of U.S. East coast will all die in the
	winter because they don't have beard).

You missed the analogy I was drawing to a period 5 to 30 years
ago when men were expected to shave their faces much the way you
expect women to shave their arms and their legs.  If you weren't
a part of the USA culture then I find it understandable that you
would not understand the analogy.

	I hope that you should control your temple
	next time and try to say something that
	makes sense and worths with your knowledge
	or education.

This advise too is worth what it costs.

	How old are you, Larry? You're not old
	enough to be careful when you shave
	yourself? Too bad because it's *only* your
	own problem. I suggest that you learn how
	shave by putting some foam on your wet face
	first or by using an electric razor
	(hope that you know how to plug it in your
	outlet).

My age has very little to do with the discussion.
I don't think you understand the basic principle behind
shaving.  The razor, when dragged across the skin removes a
layer of skin from the surface, along with hair.  This is worse
for some people than for others.  I happen to have very
sensitive skin and removing the outermost layer is very bad for
me.  This is true of both an electric razor or a blade razor.

	Here's some thing for you to think about: If
	people don't want to hit someone, does that
	mean they don't or never will drive a car?
	If you want to do something, I believe that
	you can learn how to do it properly. The
	harder you learn/try, the better you are
	(the same thing that you had to learn to be
	a programmer), so instead of trying to find
	a reason to excuse for *not* doing *it, why
	don't you just learn how to do *it*.

Thankyou for faith in my abilities. Look, you don't know enough
about me to comment. For me to shave without soreness is a
little bit like you jumping off a tall building to fly without
falling.


	Is it true that you liked to say some women
	look better with their leg/armpit hair than
	without it?

Yest that is true!

	I admit that the matter of shaving or
	unshaving your leg/armpit hair don't affect
	on you work performance or what inside you,
	but how can you prove it to me or someone
	who just know/meet you?

Why should I have to prove it to you. If you admit shaving or
not shaving doesn't affect performance then why is the burden of
proof on me? 

	Ashamed of you. 

Gee thanks.

	Will it be better to hire someone who has a
	good qualification for his/her job, and also
	shows you/or anyone else his/her nice
	appearance? That kind of person, I believe,
	can have a better chance to move up to or
	succeed in a management position in his/her
	future than you.

I don't believe hair presence or lack has anything to do with
ability.  On the subject of appearance not only do I find it
poor to judge interviewees on their appearance but the Bell
Labs guidelines specify that interviewers "...must evaluate only
the candidate's technical ability and knowledge."   Another
Bell Labs guideline to interviewers is "Do not assess
appearance, mode of dress, personal characteristics, maturity,
etc."  I agree with these guidelines!  

				Larry Welsch
				houxu!welsch