welsch@houxu.UUCP (09/15/83)
Some responses to thanh's reply to my response to his article on hair. Thanh's comments are indented. Larry, I give up unconditionally when you said that you would shave if you were in a jungle? Is it the fact to show how abnormal/honest you are on the net (if that's what you were, you should hide it)? This question is like the infamous "When did you stop beating your wife?" No I did not say it to show how "abnormal/honest" I am. Jungles happen to be full of insects and do not provide much opportunity for cleanliness. Hair provides an ideal hiding place for insects and dirt. In such an environment hair is more of a nuisance than a value and yes I would shave under such conditions. I didn't see it funny, and found that it (your statement) only made a fool of yourself (Take this advice: Don't be so upset next time because the more you upsetted, the poorer judgment you made if you have any). The statement was not intended to be funny. Your advice is worth what it costs. You gave me a lesson about the usefulness of your hair and beard without any knowledge about (1) that I didn't say or ever claimed that you or anyone else must shave all of their body hair, and (2) that what happen for all women who didn't have beard to keep them away "frosting their breath, keeping sub-zero temp. from hitting their face, etc. (Doesn't it also mean that women from North of U.S. East coast will all die in the winter because they don't have beard). You missed the analogy I was drawing to a period 5 to 30 years ago when men were expected to shave their faces much the way you expect women to shave their arms and their legs. If you weren't a part of the USA culture then I find it understandable that you would not understand the analogy. I hope that you should control your temple next time and try to say something that makes sense and worths with your knowledge or education. This advise too is worth what it costs. How old are you, Larry? You're not old enough to be careful when you shave yourself? Too bad because it's *only* your own problem. I suggest that you learn how shave by putting some foam on your wet face first or by using an electric razor (hope that you know how to plug it in your outlet). My age has very little to do with the discussion. I don't think you understand the basic principle behind shaving. The razor, when dragged across the skin removes a layer of skin from the surface, along with hair. This is worse for some people than for others. I happen to have very sensitive skin and removing the outermost layer is very bad for me. This is true of both an electric razor or a blade razor. Here's some thing for you to think about: If people don't want to hit someone, does that mean they don't or never will drive a car? If you want to do something, I believe that you can learn how to do it properly. The harder you learn/try, the better you are (the same thing that you had to learn to be a programmer), so instead of trying to find a reason to excuse for *not* doing *it, why don't you just learn how to do *it*. Thankyou for faith in my abilities. Look, you don't know enough about me to comment. For me to shave without soreness is a little bit like you jumping off a tall building to fly without falling. Is it true that you liked to say some women look better with their leg/armpit hair than without it? Yest that is true! I admit that the matter of shaving or unshaving your leg/armpit hair don't affect on you work performance or what inside you, but how can you prove it to me or someone who just know/meet you? Why should I have to prove it to you. If you admit shaving or not shaving doesn't affect performance then why is the burden of proof on me? Ashamed of you. Gee thanks. Will it be better to hire someone who has a good qualification for his/her job, and also shows you/or anyone else his/her nice appearance? That kind of person, I believe, can have a better chance to move up to or succeed in a management position in his/her future than you. I don't believe hair presence or lack has anything to do with ability. On the subject of appearance not only do I find it poor to judge interviewees on their appearance but the Bell Labs guidelines specify that interviewers "...must evaluate only the candidate's technical ability and knowledge." Another Bell Labs guideline to interviewers is "Do not assess appearance, mode of dress, personal characteristics, maturity, etc." I agree with these guidelines! Larry Welsch houxu!welsch